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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 20:58:06 GMT -6
Sacramento just played to a near empty arena because of protests in the area.
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Post by cardi bqtrain on Mar 22, 2018 21:04:48 GMT -6
that still seems like a lot of fans for a Kings - Hawks game
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Post by unlikelyjapan on Mar 22, 2018 21:26:58 GMT -6
It's so weird to see NBA teams tank while I'm watching amateurs play their soul out
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Post by dij22 on Mar 22, 2018 21:44:15 GMT -6
It's so weird to see NBA teams tank while I'm watching amateurs play their soul out
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Post by Tweet on Mar 22, 2018 21:45:07 GMT -6
What a take
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 22:20:50 GMT -6
Jesus that's such a fucking stupid post. Like on the level of a Trump post.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 22:25:03 GMT -6
I meant the Tweet, btw.
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Post by Tweet on Mar 22, 2018 22:29:29 GMT -6
You still haven’t specified technically
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Post by dij22 on Mar 26, 2018 18:14:57 GMT -6
Fun with Stats
102 guards have played at least 50 games and averaged at least 20mpg. 60 of those guards shoot at least 80% from the free throw line. Elfrid Payton is 95th at 64.9%
Lonzo Ball is dead last at 44.9%
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Post by Blue42 on Mar 27, 2018 13:34:36 GMT -6
Nice job by Thibs last night, playing Taj, Wiggins and Teague 42+ minutes each, only to lose a home game to a Memphis team actively trying to lose.
Towns played 39, but his "low" number of minutes can be attributed to some foul trouble. Otherwise I'm sure he'd be well into the 40s as well.
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Post by andrewvb on Mar 27, 2018 13:37:15 GMT -6
i mean, it's not like they're in a comfortable playoff position and can rest their good players. they desperately need to win.
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Post by llamaoftime on Mar 27, 2018 14:32:18 GMT -6
Rockets first team to 60 wins this season and first 60 win team in franchise history
im not gonna lie ive held myself back so hard from just heaping praise on this team in this thread more than i even have because i know no one here cares but jesus christ im so exciting about this team. and we might as well have the 1 seed locked up now which lets us rest Harden and Paul through the end of the season. Harden is actually sitting out tonight against the Bulls
but man i really really hope that the Warriors are healthy come Western Conference Finals time. I'm gonna be so so so annoyed if I have to hear a bunch of people saying "Yeah you won BUT if the Warriors were healthy..." At this point, I honestly have zero doubts we can match them and beat them in a 7 game series when they are full strength. This team is too deep and works too well together
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Post by goodson on Mar 27, 2018 14:50:22 GMT -6
rooting hard for the rockets
what a fun team
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Post by Blue42 on Mar 27, 2018 14:59:39 GMT -6
i mean, it's not like they're in a comfortable playoff position and can rest their good players. they desperately need to win.
That would be a valid argument if he hadn't been doing it the whole damn season. He's grinding these guys into dust. And even if they manage to make the playoffs, they're going to have absolutely nothing left (as we saw so often in Chicago). And if they have so few "good players," whose fault is that? Can't really deflect blame onto the GM, can you?
Congrats, Thibs. You took years off the careers of your players, all so you have the opportunity to get swept by Houston in the first round.
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Post by teekoh on Mar 27, 2018 15:07:37 GMT -6
It's still a valid argument. That team has to make the playoffs.
Also, they have absolutely no depth. I felt that some of his Bulls team were deeper than he wanted to admit, but most of the time they couldn't go more than 7-8 deep either and stay competitive. Those teams weren't ever in danger of missing the playoffs, though, and the criticism of him then holds some water.
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Post by llamaoftime on Mar 27, 2018 15:10:51 GMT -6
What's the status on Jimmy Buttler? I see something saying he hopes to be back by the end of the regular season but is that just hopeful optimism?
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Post by dij22 on Mar 27, 2018 15:37:23 GMT -6
i mean, it's not like they're in a comfortable playoff position and can rest their good players. they desperately need to win.
That would be a valid argument if he hadn't been doing it the whole damn season. He's grinding these guys into dust. And even if they manage to make the playoffs, they're going to have absolutely nothing left (as we saw so often in Chicago). And if they have so few "good players," whose fault is that? Can't really deflect blame onto the GM, can you?
Congrats, Thibs. You took years off the careers of your players, all so you have the opportunity to get swept by Houston in the first round.
Would you rather have Kris Dunn, Zach Lavine, and Lauri Markkanen?
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Post by dij22 on Mar 27, 2018 16:01:57 GMT -6
Also here is a list of duos who are in the top 12 in minutes played:
Jimmy Butler (t-1) and Andrew Wiggins (t-10) Giannis Antetokounpo (3) and Khris Middelton (t-4) Damian Lillard (t-4) and CJ McCollum (12) Paul George (t-4) and Russell Westbrook (t-10) Anthony Davis (8) and Jrue Holiday (9)
Congrats Joe Prunty, you took years off the careers of your players, all so you have the opportunity to get swept by Toronto in the first round. Congrats Terry Stotts, you took years off the careers of your players, all so you have the opportunity to get swept by Golden State in the second round. Congrats Billy Donovan, you took years off the careers of your players, all so you have the opportunity to get swept by Houston in the second round. Congrats Alvin Gentry, you took years off the careers of your players, all so you have the opportunity to get swept by Houston in the second round.
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Post by Blue42 on Mar 27, 2018 16:27:10 GMT -6
It's still a valid argument. That team has to make the playoffs. Also, they have absolutely no depth. I felt that some of his Bulls team were deeper than he wanted to admit, but most of the time they couldn't go more than 7-8 deep either and stay competitive. Those teams weren't ever in danger of missing the playoffs, though, and the criticism of him then holds some water.
On the topic of "good players," Gorgui Dieng has seen his minutes drop from an average of 32 last season to just 17 this year. This comes on the heels of a 4/$64 contract extension he signed in October of 2016. Who was the GM who deemed Gorgui "good" enough to warrant an average of $16 million for the next four seasons? Oh yeah, that was Thibs too. And yet, he's somehow not good enough to play even respectable backup minutes?
Their big positions should be a 3-way timeshare between Gibson, Towns and Dieng (with Bjelica getting occasional minutes as a stretch 4, albeit they don't have this luxury with Butler hurt). Speaking of Butler, has there ever been a case of a guy just being too worn down to play in the All Star Game? The dude was literally so tired from the workload given to him by Thibs that he elected not to play.
Did anyone actually watch the game last night? The team looked absolutely gassed and got outscored 23-11 in the 4th by a Memphis team that has no incentive to win. And yet, win they did, largely because their coach distributed their minutes in a much more responsible manner.
These are the bench minutes for the Wolves last night:
Crawford: 30 Dieng: 13 Jones: 5.
I get it. Bulls fans have fond memories of Thibs from those fun years in the Luol/Rose/etc. days. But he's not good anymore, not as a coach and certainly not as a GM.
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Post by Blue42 on Mar 27, 2018 16:34:27 GMT -6
That would be a valid argument if he hadn't been doing it the whole damn season. He's grinding these guys into dust. And even if they manage to make the playoffs, they're going to have absolutely nothing left (as we saw so often in Chicago). And if they have so few "good players," whose fault is that? Can't really deflect blame onto the GM, can you?
Congrats, Thibs. You took years off the careers of your players, all so you have the opportunity to get swept by Houston in the first round.
Would you rather have Kris Dunn, Zach Lavine, and Lauri Markkanen?
No. I'd rather have Minnesota's roster in a vacuum. I just would have used it differently.
I also never liked the Teague signing, but that's an entirely different debate.
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Post by andrewvb on Mar 27, 2018 17:12:10 GMT -6
I understand what you’re saying, but right now butler is hurt and the wolves could not make the playoffs in the meantime. He overused the players earlier in the season maybe but now there’s no choice.
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Post by dij22 on Mar 27, 2018 18:59:24 GMT -6
Spring Break has afforded me the opportunity to dick around with stats.nba.com so I have new groundbreaking research into how terrible the Bulls are.
In the 12 games Zach LaVine, Lauri Markkanen, and Kris Dunn have played together, they have shared the court on average for 21.3 minutes per game.
In that time, they scored 97.5 points while giving up 119.2 points (per 100 possessions).
The Suns are dead last in each category this year and they score 100.6 points while giving up 113.2 points.
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Post by unlikelyjapan on Mar 27, 2018 19:21:31 GMT -6
It's probably not fair to count any minutes where Felicio was on the court with them. He's so terrible
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Post by Blue42 on Mar 27, 2018 19:33:51 GMT -6
It's probably not fair to count any minutes where Felicio was on the court with them. He's so terrible That's a low key terrible contract, for sure. There's no reason any NBA team should pay a backup center more than like $5 million/year at this point.
I wouldn't surprised if far better options (Noel, Favors, Randle, etc.) can't even reach the $8 mil/year that Felicio is getting when they hit free agency this summer. Hell, the Blazers might even be able to bring back Nurkic at a similar number.
From what I've read, Felicio is another case of Gar's ego blurring his vision. They look at Felicio much the same way they look at "finding" Kukoc all those years ago, and that ridiculous contract is essentially Gar patting himself on the back for discovering a Brazilian big guy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 14:37:15 GMT -6
Oooooooof
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Post by teekoh on Mar 28, 2018 14:59:21 GMT -6
It's so sad.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 8:04:03 GMT -6
Kemba is now the Hornets all time scorer. 9,841 pts and counting. <3
Gonna be sad when he leaves... almost as sad as Isaiah Thomas.
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Post by dij22 on Mar 29, 2018 8:41:15 GMT -6
Kemba is now the Hornets all time scorer. 9,841 pts and counting. <3 Gonna be sad when he leaves... almost as sad as Isaiah Thomas. I think he'd be a perfect fit for the Bulls but we already have 9 point guards Also this is a fun fact: After Cavs beat Hornets, Kemba Walker is now 0-26 in his career against LeBron James
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 9:06:04 GMT -6
Speaks more about the Hornets organization/disparity in the conference, but still pretty irksome. :/
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Post by Blue42 on Mar 29, 2018 9:41:07 GMT -6
Kemba is now the Hornets all time scorer. 9,841 pts and counting. <3 Gonna be sad when he leaves... almost as sad as Isaiah Thomas. I never thought about this before, but I'm genuinely curious how this shit works. Does the "Hornets" franchise history only run 14 years deep since that franchise technically started with the Bobcats after the original franchise moved to New Orleans in 2002? Conversely, would Chris Paul's numbers fall under "Hornets" franchise history? Or are those now "Pelicans" franchise numbers?
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