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Post by mookie on Dec 20, 2019 16:04:33 GMT -6
One thing I guess that I'm confused with: With Rey's dad being Palaptine's son, are we just assuming that all of his evil and powers just skipped over a generation? Why wouldn't he have tried to groom him to the dark side as well? I feel like either I completely missed something they said in the movie or it just doesn't make much sense.  |
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Post by krentist on Dec 20, 2019 16:21:27 GMT -6
Is there a way I could get a Valerian sequel instead of having to watch this In summary, this movie had 0 hours of masterpiece level content whereas Valerian had 1. The only argument I could make for this movie over Valerian is that JJ is not as far as we know a sex predator. |
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Post by ultravisitor on Dec 20, 2019 16:49:39 GMT -6
Also, I totally forgot that if they give Keri Russell's character a tv show, I might be able to get on board with the extended universe.
I wanted more Keri Russell.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 16:58:39 GMT -6
I would like a lot more of Keri Russell myself.  |
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Post by llamaoftime on Dec 20, 2019 23:07:56 GMT -6
Woof they really bungled this thing up didn't they?
That was not very good
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Post by ultravisitor on Dec 20, 2019 23:13:52 GMT -6
I'm hearing from more people about their theaters laughing at it.
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Post by llamaoftime on Dec 20, 2019 23:20:06 GMT -6
Honestly if this is the story they wanted to tell they might as well have just not made The Last Jedi and had this story be two movies. also i wonder how much worse the colin trevorrow version would have been I'm hearing from more people about their theaters laughing at it. There were some awkward laughs at points and some audible groans when Rey and Kylo kissed. |
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Post by goodson on Dec 21, 2019 1:49:36 GMT -6
tbh.... this movie's kind of sick
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Post by llamaoftime on Dec 21, 2019 12:13:11 GMT -6
So while it's looking at still a pretty respectable $190 million ish opening, thats the lowest in the new trilogy yet and some things suggest this one will have higher drops (mixed reception + lowest cinemascore of the series). It's really up to the holds whether this is a disappointment or not.
If it does have bad holds, I'm wondering what disney does next.
-Try to keep milking that OT nostalgia and do another movie set around that
-Try to tap into nostalgia for the prequel trilogy and do something based around that. Maybe something involving pod racing again, maybe something set between eps 1 and 2, maybe a Clone Wars movie.
-Loud bombastic fan-servicey action movie light on story connections with tons of lightsaber battles (someone call Zack Snyder)
-actually come up with something cool and original not tied to the original trilogy so hard
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2019 12:15:56 GMT -6
-actually come up with something cool and original not tied to the original trilogy so hard bruh weren't you just throwing shade at TLJ a few days ago? |
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Post by Kamera on Dec 21, 2019 12:52:15 GMT -6
I will admit that watching TRoS got me itching to play this dungeon crawler again.  |
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 21, 2019 13:45:02 GMT -6
So while it's looking at still a pretty respectable $190 million ish opening, thats the lowest in the new trilogy yet and some things suggest this one will have higher drops (mixed reception + lowest cinemascore of the series). It's really up to the holds whether this is a disappointment or not. If it does have bad holds, I'm wondering what disney does next. -Try to keep milking that OT nostalgia and do another movie set around that -Try to tap into nostalgia for the prequel trilogy and do something based around that. Maybe something involving pod racing again, maybe something set between eps 1 and 2, maybe a Clone Wars movie.-Loud bombastic fan-servicey action movie light on story connections with tons of lightsaber battles (someone call Zack Snyder) -actually come up with something cool and original not tied to the original trilogy so hard this would bomb so bad it would rule |
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Post by ultravisitor on Dec 21, 2019 13:49:54 GMT -6
I'm not sure what Disney can do moving forward. I know there will always be people obsessed with the minutiae of the Star Wars universe, but bellyflopping so hard on the ending of the main story after the Solo and Rogue One messes is gonna lose them a lot of the audience.
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Post by cosmo on Dec 21, 2019 14:02:46 GMT -6
I have not seen the new one yet, but I would have rather seen the Admiral Thrawn trilogy come to the screen.
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Post by mookie on Dec 21, 2019 14:04:37 GMT -6
So while it's looking at still a pretty respectable $190 million ish opening, thats the lowest in the new trilogy yet and some things suggest this one will have higher drops (mixed reception + lowest cinemascore of the series). It's really up to the holds whether this is a disappointment or not. If it does have bad holds, I'm wondering what disney does next. -Try to keep milking that OT nostalgia and do another movie set around that -Try to tap into nostalgia for the prequel trilogy and do something based around that. Maybe something involving pod racing again, maybe something set between eps 1 and 2, maybe a Clone Wars movie.-Loud bombastic fan-servicey action movie light on story connections with tons of lightsaber battles (someone call Zack Snyder) -actually come up with something cool and original not tied to the original trilogy so hard this would bomb so bad it would rule We never really did find out what happened to Jar Jar... |
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Post by ultravisitor on Dec 21, 2019 19:44:44 GMT -6
I know you're all wondering, so I'll tell you:
Star Wars is almost as bad as Cats.
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Post by llamaoftime on Dec 21, 2019 21:10:58 GMT -6
-actually come up with something cool and original not tied to the original trilogy so hard bruh weren't you just throwing shade at TLJ a few days ago? my shade in that comment was a little more directed at the fact that both spinoffs so far are very related to the original trilogy (though ill admit Rogue One was a cool idea, even if it faltered a bit in execution) despite that this universe is HUGE, but even The Last Jedi while it bucks trends and tries to do something new in comparison to the OT, you still have Luke and Leia and Chewie and those characters...what I meant with that is telling a new story in the Star Wars universe that doesn't involve the Skywalkers at all. That's not a criticism of TLJ (and as mentioned I very much do have criticisms of that film), I fully expected a sequel trilogy to heavily reference the OT, and TLJ did stray from it in plenty of ways that TFA and TROS did not so credit there.
But we're five years and five movies into the Disney era and The Mandalorian is the only media they've done that isn't super tied to the first 6 films...I assume at least, I havent actually watched it yet but thats not beccause I'm not interested, just was waiting to binge it. But between the first six films and the extended universe, it really felt like this universe was HUGE with plenty happening beyond Anakin and Luke's story and Disney has yet to explore that.
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Post by Kamera on Dec 21, 2019 21:17:02 GMT -6
...and Doctor Aphra
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Post by llamaoftime on Dec 21, 2019 21:25:30 GMT -6
I wasn't really including comics or books, I haven't delved into those. Possible they've done a lot with that. I know there's a trilogy of canon Thrawn books, though those do seem very tied to the trilogy Personally, I really really want to see them delve into the timeline set around Knights of the Old Republic. I think the story of the first game could actually make a solid movie if adapted well, but I'm also ok with a brand new story set around that time. Just doing something original with no limitations. Hopefully with a talented filmmaker |
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Post by krentist on Dec 22, 2019 0:09:47 GMT -6
After a second viewing my take is that it's Not Good and that they did not need to shoot themselves in their own dicks so many times. Palpatine on the other hand should have shot himself in the dick as if he were incapable of cumming I wouldn't have had to deal with that terrible plot convolution |
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Post by neader on Dec 22, 2019 0:49:30 GMT -6
I think the weirdest take I've seen is it's dumb we never got an Anakin force ghost moment. Not sure why fans feel entitled for that since Anakin did not have any close ties to the current cast and has no reason to show up but also it is Star Wars fans so maybe I'm dumber than them for even being surprised. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 5:11:04 GMT -6
You kinda did. Hayden Christiansen's voice was heard at least (as well as JEJ). |
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Post by cosmo on Dec 22, 2019 9:00:14 GMT -6
I wasn't really including comics or books, I haven't delved into those. Possible they've done a lot with that. I know there's a trilogy of canon Thrawn books, though those do seem very tied to the trilogy Personally, I really really want to see them delve into the timeline set around Knights of the Old Republic. I think the story of the first game could actually make a solid movie if adapted well, but I'm also ok with a brand new story set around that time. Just doing something original with no limitations. Hopefully with a talented filmmaker The Thrawn trilogy takes place almost immediately after Return of the Jedi. and ends with the conclusion of the war. |
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Post by concertgoer on Dec 22, 2019 9:03:50 GMT -6
Movie was decent. The Last Jedi was easily the best film in this trilogy though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 11:43:38 GMT -6
bruh weren't you just throwing shade at TLJ a few days ago? my shade in that comment was a little more directed at the fact that both spinoffs so far are very related to the original trilogy (though ill admit Rogue One was a cool idea, even if it faltered a bit in execution) despite that this universe is HUGE, but even The Last Jedi while it bucks trends and tries to do something new in comparison to the OT, you still have Luke and Leia and Chewie and those characters...what I meant with that is telling a new story in the Star Wars universe that doesn't involve the Skywalkers at all. That's not a criticism of TLJ (and as mentioned I very much do have criticisms of that film), I fully expected a sequel trilogy to heavily reference the OT, and TLJ did stray from it in plenty of ways that TFA and TROS did not so credit there.
But we're five years and five movies into the Disney era and The Mandalorian is the only media they've done that isn't super tied to the first 6 films...I assume at least, I havent actually watched it yet but thats not beccause I'm not interested, just was waiting to binge it. But between the first six films and the extended universe, it really felt like this universe was HUGE with plenty happening beyond Anakin and Luke's story and Disney has yet to explore that.
alright fair enough, that makes sense. i guess allegedly both the Rian Johnson series and the D&D series were supposed to be completely new takes on the universe with little to no connection to the Skywalker saga, but apparently both those plans are either on hold or completely done away with now. |
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Post by regionrat6337 on Dec 22, 2019 13:39:36 GMT -6
Saw it for a second time yesterday
Idk, I love this movie *shrug*
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 22, 2019 18:49:25 GMT -6
Absolutely wild
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Post by rango420 on Dec 22, 2019 19:15:17 GMT -6
This has to be the worst star war by far right? Couldn’t believe how bad it was. Our theater had walk outs and loud groans at every twist. Truly wild.
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Post by rango420 on Dec 22, 2019 19:16:10 GMT -6
Saw it for a second time yesterday Idk, I love this movie *shrug* This is like joker level twistef |
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Post by wanny on Dec 22, 2019 23:17:14 GMT -6
Was just another okay Star Wars film like the entire trilogy. I think A Force Awakens was my favorite, although they're all around 5-6/10.
The investment and emotion in every film in this trilogy has been boring and stale, which is my biggest problem with it. I just get nothing out of these compared to something like LoTR and even Marvel flicks.
Back to only really liking Empire Strikes Back.
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