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Post by chvrchbarrel on Feb 13, 2019 20:50:52 GMT -6
I've got one from the Chicago Theatre show on ebay. Theres brought people who double down on these sorts of things that they should sell i mean, i don't want it, if someone wants to give me their money for it, ill spend it on artists that count
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Post by doso on Feb 14, 2019 0:01:52 GMT -6
I'm struggling with this because I'm not sure I can stop listening to his music. It's hard to imagine going to another one of his shows. Or wearing one of his t-shirts. Ugh.
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Post by sleeping on Feb 14, 2019 13:04:46 GMT -6
This absolutely does not excuse his actions in any way, but Ryan Adams has Bipolar II. Everything in that NYT article is textbook bipolar behavior. However he was diagnosed like 20 years ago, if he has not been managing his moods with medication and his behavior with therapy, that is on him.
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Post by andrewvb on Feb 14, 2019 13:11:19 GMT -6
hitting on women less established in your field while alluding to career advancement and taking away those opportunities when they won't sleep with you is textbook bipolar behavior?
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Post by Tweet on Feb 14, 2019 13:16:29 GMT -6
Guess I've been doing Bipolar wrong
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Post by Tweet on Feb 14, 2019 13:22:58 GMT -6
Snippy post aside I do see Sleeping's point. Mood disorders are fuckin weird and flipping rapidly happens pretty consistently, at least in my experience. However, uh, I have yet to get the memo about purposely being a manipulative dick to people who would not fuck me (I will own accidentally a dick a lot of the time, which I've been working on).
But let's put that behavior aside for a moment: on what planet is soliciting nudes from an underage girl ok? I feel like even with Bipolar disorder it's a pretty clear bad thing to do
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Post by sleeping on Feb 14, 2019 13:37:45 GMT -6
He clearly has huge problems with impulse control.
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Post by sthubbins on Feb 14, 2019 13:41:09 GMT -6
that's one way to put it!!
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Post by pulp on Feb 14, 2019 14:09:27 GMT -6
This is fucking awful. This piece of shit has written songs that made me cry.
(I am not the victim here, obviously. Just whining. And feeling defensive, because deep down, I think I already knew he had the capacity for this kind of manipulative garbage.)
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Post by pulp on Feb 14, 2019 14:10:38 GMT -6
I'll just listen to Phoebe Bridgers at +100dB any time I'm in the mood for "Magnolia Mountain."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 15:14:40 GMT -6
videotape from the R. & B. superstar R. Kelly’s past may soon lead to his indictment in Illinois, according to a senior law-enforcement official. The video shows the singer sexually assaulting an underage girl, the official and two other sources familiar with the tape said. Steve Greenberg, a lawyer who represents Kelly, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Last month, Greenberg said, of Kelly, in an interview with the Associated Press, “He never knowingly had sex with an underage woman, he never forced anyone to do anything, he never held anyone captive, he never abused anyone.”
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Post by ultravisitor on Feb 14, 2019 15:32:20 GMT -6
Um, doesn't he mention her age in the video?
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Post by Tweet on Feb 14, 2019 17:19:38 GMT -6
FBI opened an inquiry into DRA
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Post by thebosma on Feb 14, 2019 18:41:09 GMT -6
Karen Elson and Liz Phair have both come forward to say Ryan Adams acted the same way towards them, and that the similarities in the stories are scary.
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Post by monasterymonochrome on Feb 14, 2019 23:19:22 GMT -6
His upcoming album release has officially been cancelled. DRA is getting PWR BTTM'ed out of the industry - will be interesting to see if it sticks
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Post by mookie on Feb 15, 2019 6:42:36 GMT -6
His upcoming album release has officially been cancelled. DRA is getting PWR BTTM'ed out of the industry - will be interesting to see if it sticks He's still got his studio, I would imagine he may ghost write songs for people, but other than that, he's done.
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Post by alady on Feb 15, 2019 9:25:20 GMT -6
Look at Aziz Ansari and Louie C.K. Of course Ryan Adams will still have a career.
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Post by wanny on Feb 15, 2019 9:29:34 GMT -6
I don't know if I'd really categorize Aziz with Louie and DRA. Both of them are leaps and bounds worse
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Post by neader on Feb 15, 2019 9:35:15 GMT -6
Aziz is worse? And DRA doesn't have the mainstream appeal that Aziz and Louis do, I think he's done.
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Post by Xamnam on Feb 15, 2019 9:37:46 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 9:38:03 GMT -6
Judging by the reaction from some of his fans on social media, he'll be okay. Which sucks. People like that never just disappear, unfortunately. "Redemption" or a second chance is owed to them or something. And that's if they even admit they did anything wrong!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 9:38:36 GMT -6
Aziz is worse? And DRA doesn't have the mainstream appeal that Aziz and Louis do, I think he's done. Re-read his post.
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Post by sthubbins on Feb 15, 2019 9:40:35 GMT -6
it's as much about audience as anything else. Comedy fans have a deep anti-SJW/PC strain that's skeptical about MeToo stuff - Louie's not going to sell out MSG any time soon but he can easily be a touring comic just by appealing to that crowd. PWR BTTM's scene meanwhile was steeped in social justice so the behavior shut them down pretty much immediately.
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Post by thebosma on Feb 15, 2019 9:41:32 GMT -6
Ranking the severity of the actions of any of these disgusting people only serves as an excuse to legitimize enjoying the content a man who “didn’t do anything as bad as [x,y,z sexually abusive piece of shit]”produces
Fuck them all, burn it the fuck down.
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Post by neader on Feb 15, 2019 9:43:06 GMT -6
Aziz is worse? And DRA doesn't have the mainstream appeal that Aziz and Louis do, I think he's done. Re-read his post. oooohhhhhh
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Post by alady on Feb 15, 2019 9:45:24 GMT -6
Ranking the severity of the actions of any of these disgusting people only serves as an excuse to legitimize enjoying the content a man who “didn’t do anything as bad as [x,y,z sexually abusive piece of shit]”produces Fuck them all, burn it the fuck down. "It's not like he actually raped them!" is a real big, real shitty umbrella.
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Post by thebosma on Feb 15, 2019 9:52:40 GMT -6
Ranking the severity of the actions of any of these disgusting people only serves as an excuse to legitimize enjoying the content a man who “didn’t do anything as bad as [x,y,z sexually abusive piece of shit]”produces Fuck them all, burn it the fuck down. "It's not like he actually raped them!" is a real big, real shitty umbrella. Right! And people think they should be congratulated for this view! Someone literally said to me that they didn’t think that what Aziz did was as bad as what Bill Cosby did and I can only think fucking so? Like congratulations on your shitty hetero-normative view of sexuality only consisting of one person entering another, but the fact of the matter is there’s a whole lot of other shit that’s awful and traumatizing for a survivor! Like I’m gonna give you a fucking cookie for your “unpopular opinion” that Bill Cosby is bad! Fuck that shit!
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Post by sleeping on Feb 15, 2019 13:34:59 GMT -6
Comedy fans have a deep anti-SJW/PC strain that's skeptical about MeToo stuff - Louie's not going to sell out MSG any time soon but he can easily be a touring comic just by appealing to that crowd.\ Ewww no, this really only describes a small pocket of (white, male) comedy fans, who are uncomfortable with the idea that comedy is not entirely about them. Like you can't compare a fan of like Doug Stanhope with a fan of like Cameron Esposito or Jen Kirkman or Hari Kondabolu or Kumail Nanjiani or Ali Wong and I just realized that it's waaaaaaayyyyyy easier in 2019 to name successful non-white-male comedians and that's awesome.
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Post by sthubbins on Feb 15, 2019 13:39:11 GMT -6
Yes comedy is changing, I’m saying there’s a deep-seated tradition in the comedy world that Louis came up in that provides an audience for someone who did what he did to still make a living off stand-up
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Post by alady on Feb 15, 2019 14:27:52 GMT -6
I don't think that's a small pocket.
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