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Post by cosmo on Jun 2, 2020 6:27:46 GMT -6
It's a fairly typical revenge-style movie. Similar to Deathwish. The plot goes a little haywire at times with the IRA stuff, but it's okay. Jackie Chan provides the action.
Overall, there are worst revenge films out there. It's worth a look, but 'average' is pretty much it.
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Post by irvred on Jun 2, 2020 9:02:29 GMT -6
God tier 1. The Wolf of Wall Street (2013) 2. Silence (2016) 3. The King of Comedy (1982) 4. Mean Streets (1973) 5. Taxi Driver (1976) 6. Casino (1995) 7. The Departed (2006) 8. Goodfellas (1990) 9. Bringing Out the Dead (1999) 10. Raging Bull (1980)
Demigod tier 11. Shutter Island (2010) 12. The Age of Innocence (1993) 13. The Last Temptation of Christ (1988) 14. The Aviator (2004) 15. Hugo (2011)
Good tier 16. After Hours (1985) 17. Cape Fear (1991) 18. The Color of Money (1986) 19. Boxcar Bertha (1972) 20. The Irishman (2019)
Gangs of New York tier 21. Gangs of New York (2002)
‘These are fine’ tier 22. Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore (1974) 23. Who’s That Knocking at My Door (1967)
Kindun tier 24. Kundun (1997)
Best The Last Waltz: The Last Waltz (1978) Unavailable: New York, New York (1977)
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Post by irvred on Jun 2, 2020 9:03:55 GMT -6
Thinking of doing Lynch next; have already seen almost everything of his but am due for rewatches.
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Post by krentist on Jun 2, 2020 9:14:28 GMT -6
I don't know how fun that it is but I've been looking for an excuse to pop in my Wild at Heart Blu Ray. HML when you get to that point. Also some of his stuff is really a bitch to stream just FYI
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2020 13:59:29 GMT -6
okay i finally watched Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives yesterday and it was a trip
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Post by Xamnam on Jun 3, 2020 7:09:02 GMT -6
our drive-in theater is opening on Friday wooooooooooooooooo
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 9:26:57 GMT -6
yoooo this was legit great. sad i didnt see it last year for it to make my list but definitely recommend for anyone who likes unpredictable thrillers.
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Post by ultravisitor on Jun 3, 2020 13:16:08 GMT -6
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Jun 3, 2020 15:00:12 GMT -6
Half a Loaf of Kung Fu is all over the place and a bit of a chore to watch. I’d pass on this one.
Just started watching La Haine; I am not even through the credits yet and I am already amped for tonight’s protest.
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Jun 4, 2020 7:48:53 GMT -6
Started last night with a smattering of special features on The Breakfast Club CC blu, the highlight of which for me was Judd Nelson reading from John Hughes’ original story notes. Then after the movie, we moved on to The Jerk which makes me laugh like a hyena all the way through the scene with the cans (still one of the funniest scenes of all time). From there, it drops like a lead balloon. We didn’t finish it.
This morning: Lone Wolf and Cub 6: White Heaven in Hell to round off that series. One of the better ones! I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Today I will hit 100 (random) movies since our stay-at-home order was implemented. Do we have a thread to share completed quarantine movie projects? I will probably move on to a filmography from here.
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Post by krentist on Jun 4, 2020 8:35:05 GMT -6
We marked our third anniversary by eating [redacted] and watching MacGruber. Holds up
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Post by alady on Jun 4, 2020 8:39:59 GMT -6
Happy anniversary krentist!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 8:08:28 GMT -6
rewatched all of the Harry Potters this week, many for the first time since theaters. honestly can't believe how much i enjoyed all of them overall. it probably helps that i'm so far removed from the books now that i don't hold any of them particularly precious? i really disliked 5-7.2 when they came out because of how much they had to changed or shortened from the books for the sake of time. didn't bother me at all this time and i could just get immersed in the insanely fun acting and beautiful set pieces. Sorcerer's Stone -- probably still the worst one. it's not bad by any means, but it's so damn bright and childish and "hehe we're soooo british" at times that it kinda detracts from the magic shit. obviously the filmmakers had no idea what massive world they were walking into so it's hard to blame them but this one just doesn't have much replay value and it does not hold up visually at all. kinda fun to see what everyone was like before knowing where their characters would go tho.
Chamber of Secrets -- first half has the same struggles as the first movie but the second half SLAPS. as soon as people start getting petrified and the Tom Riddle story finds its legs, this movie gets really really good. the entire final battle is still probably the coolest set in the series and the basilisk still looks pretty good today.
Prisoner of Azkaban -- the 15,000 video essays on YT about this movie are pretty spot on. just gorgeous and perfect in every way as far as the movie goes. plot wise still great but i want so much more Sirius/Lupin/Wormtail shenanigans. i think the most jarring realization watching all of these is again is how little screentime Gary Oldman has in 3-5. he certainly uses it well, but give me more! the time traveling stuff actually holds up much better than i remembered?
Goblet of Fire -- still my favorite story. it's actually a pretty good looking movie too. everything about the tournament is bananas and Brendan Gleeson playing a character disguised as another character is the fucking best. all the Barty Crouch stuff is super good. the final act is still the most metal thing in the franchise. biggest issue is how the 3 schools are handled (LOL france is all pretty ladies and russia is burly men. neither are as smart as us brits!) and the dance sequence probably going on for a bit too long.
Order of the Phoenix -- definitely have a new appreciation for this one. i still hate how the ending is handled (too fast, inconsequential) but a lot of what goes on in the first 2 acts is super engrossing and really well shot. it's visibly obvious that Yates is trying to ape Cuaron's tricks and sometimes it doesn't work, but i definitely give him props for trying to keep that aesthetic. the whole 3rd act is kind of an inexplicable mess just to get to Sirius' death. as cool as Dumbledore vs Voldemort is, that scene is edited so obnoxiously that it's actually way harder to follow than i remembered.
Half Blood Prince -- so everyone keeps saying that this is the sleeper cell 2nd best film in the series. i've only seen it once when it came out and remember thinking it was fine but it's probably the book i cared about least so i didn't really care much either way at the time. i will say now it's way more engrossing visually and tonally than i recalled and the performances are really top notch. but i still dont think i care about the story? i dunno, it's like...we know the stakes and we know how bad things are getting. why is the whole film revolving around the school drama and teenage BS? i totally understand that it's a center theme of HP and needs to be included but it feels like it's a very uneven film and forgets to make you care about Dumbledore prior to his death. there's something peculiar about it and i think i might watch it once more today to see if i can pinpoint the issue or see if i can learn to like it.
Deathly Hallows Pt 1 -- uhh holy shit this is fantastic? again, only saw once before. i knew it was mostly trudging in the woods and infighting but i forgot how insanely dark and upsetting it is (how much it goes out of its way to show the Death Eaters usurping the government and turning Hogwarts into a prison.) the action is actually really good too, save for the shaky cam shit but that's a symptom of the era where every director was doing that horeshit. as much as we all want the big final battle of Pt 2, i really really loved the tension and waddling in sorrow of Pt 1. everything at Malfoy Manor is just peak HP geekdom and i loved it.
Deathly Hallows Pt 2 -- certainly a good payoff for how much emotion the series puts into every character (mostly -- i still don't like how little the film pays attention to things like George, Lupin, and Tonks' death, but i can't recall if the book actually shows those or if it's just mentioned after? also Bellatrix's death is treated as un-seriously as Sirius' but she also has way less screentime than i remembered so w/e.) but again i kinda liked the pre-battle stuff. Maggie Smith kinda steals the movie with her duel with Snape and then animating the stone knights like a giddy student. this is more of a complaint with Rowling but the fact that we're THIS close to the ending and there's still 5 horcruxes to smash and 2 deathly hallows to find makes for a LOT of plot getting in the way of the story. lots of McGuffins to find more McGuffins.
tl;dr 3 4 7.1 5 7.2 2 6 *1
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Post by thebosma on Jun 5, 2020 8:13:47 GMT -6
I think my biggest problem with that series (besides the fact that Rowling is a TERF, the Jewish stereotypes, etc) is that after Prisoner of Azkaban used a really stunning stark color palette, every other director after was like “Oh you want dreary shit? Awesome” and then every subsequent film is a series of blacks and grays with very little more visually interesting material in THE CHILDRENS BOOKS ABOUT A SCHOOL FOR MAGIC. I dunno it’s not anything I’ve engaged with meaningfully in a while, and I haven’t seen 5-7.2 since they were in theaters. I should give them another shot as an adult
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 8:22:30 GMT -6
I think my biggest problem with that series (besides the fact that Rowling is a TERF, the Jewish stereotypes, etc) is that after Prisoner of Azkaban used a really stunning stark color palette, every other director after was like “Oh you want dreary shit? Awesome” and then every subsequent film is a series of blacks and grays with very little more visually interesting material in THE CHILDRENS BOOKS ABOUT A SCHOOL FOR MAGIC. I dunno it’s not anything I’ve engaged with meaningfully in a while, and I haven’t seen 5-7.2 since they were in theaters. I should give them another shot as an adult this was my take beforehand as well! but i actually really like the visuals of the later films this time around. while certainly bleaker, i actually think it's not so much muted visuals as it is subtle. they do a really great job with staging and lighting in ways that 1,2 and 4 kinda ignored. mark kermode actually had the balls to call them bergman-esque which I'm not sure I'd go that far but i see what he's saying. Yates definitely WANTS them to be arthouse films disguised as a YA fantasy. whether or not he succeeds (he doesn't, imo) is kinda irrelevant cause now i just appreciate the effort and creativity
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Post by rango420 on Jun 5, 2020 8:26:54 GMT -6
I have never really read harry potter at all or seen anythign after the third movie when i was a kid but the hagrid ride at universal studios was sick probably the most fun ive had engaging with anti-semitic text
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Post by rango420 on Jun 5, 2020 8:42:13 GMT -6
That is until Disney World unveils "Watto's Wild Ride"
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Post by rango420 on Jun 5, 2020 9:19:53 GMT -6
related/unrelated:
I watched episodes 1-3 over the past few weeks v important rankings
2 1
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All significantly better than all of the new movies other than Last Jedi and Rogue One
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Post by neader on Jun 5, 2020 9:27:37 GMT -6
I actually watched 8 last night since my roommate has never seen it. Still slaps. We got 20 mins into 9 but he hated it and it was late so we decided to just stop.
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Post by rango420 on Jun 5, 2020 9:27:43 GMT -6
Was surprised to read episode 3 pretty high on star wars rankings as it truly feels like a movie where everyone gave up while making it. Ep 1 and 2 has more bad stuff I guess but also has lot more interesting stuff
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Jun 5, 2020 9:32:42 GMT -6
Kuroneko: Boy do i love a good scary movie! Being a bit more into samurai movies lately as well, this really hit the spot. Excited for an October rewatch.
Heat: Rented in 4K because I felt like this deserves it. Sounds fucking incredible. Managed to get away with keeping the sound bar at an irresponsible volume. Val Kilmer is bae.
Italianamerican: I haven’t seen The Irishman yet but I assume you could watch this 3 times in a row instead and have a better time. I will check out Marty’s other shorts but this is the one I was most excited to see. Very pleasant.
Destry Rides Again: I’d watch Stewart in anything. Here, as the new sheriff in town who won’t even carry a gun (!), he shines alongside Marlene Dietrich who is honestly the star of the show. Great small-town western that keeps it light-hearted for the most part.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 9:38:39 GMT -6
Was surprised to read episode 3 pretty high on star wars rankings as it truly feels like a movie where everyone gave up while making it. Ep 1 and 2 has more bad stuff I guess but also has lot more interesting stuff i think 3 gets a pass because there's a lot more fighting and deaths and such (nonsensical as it all is) and it kinda finally ties the prequels into the original trilogy. and at that point everyone just accepted wooden acting and shit dialog after seeing 1 and 2 so we were kinda numb to the awful one liners
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 9:39:08 GMT -6
Kuroneko: Boy do i love a good scary movie! Being a bit more into samurai movies lately as well, this really hit the spot. Excited for an October rewatch. i fucking love this movie. do Onibaba next!
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Jun 5, 2020 9:45:38 GMT -6
Kuroneko: Boy do i love a good scary movie! Being a bit more into samurai movies lately as well, this really hit the spot. Excited for an October rewatch. i fucking love this movie. do Onibaba next! Yeah it’s on the shortlist! Ever seen Jigoku? I saw Shindo mention it in an interview and I’ve never seen that one either.
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Post by rango420 on Jun 5, 2020 9:50:44 GMT -6
Friedkin Rankings: Tier 1 1. Excorcist 2. Sorcerer
Tier 2: 3. The French Connection 4. The Boys in the Band
Tier 3 5. The Night They Raided Minsky's 6. The Birthday Party 7. The Brink's Job - Some nice dudes rock energy and it was nice to see a movie where the cops are explicitly the bad guys and the performances are all real good but also it was hard to pay attention because its just a vibe movie. Almost no Friedkin energy to it
Tier 5? 8. Good Times
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Post by irvred on Jun 5, 2020 9:54:05 GMT -6
Can’t wait for you to watch Blue Chips, a movie The Flagrant Ones just did an ep about.
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Post by rango420 on Jun 5, 2020 9:56:19 GMT -6
i am very excited for that one as well and am holding off listening to the flagrant ones ep.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 9:58:28 GMT -6
i fucking love this movie. do Onibaba next! Yeah it’s on the shortlist! Ever seen Jigoku? I saw Shindo mention it in an interview and I’ve never seen that one either. i have the criterion dvd of that one! one of my all time favorites <3 very different from Onibaba or Kuroneko but still incredibly upsetting
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 13:02:04 GMT -6
rewatched all of the Harry Potters this week, many for the first time since theaters. honestly can't believe how much i enjoyed all of them overall. it probably helps that i'm so far removed from the books now that i don't hold any of them particularly precious? i really disliked 5-7.2 when they came out because of how much they had to changed or shortened from the books for the sake of time. didn't bother me at all this time and i could just get immersed in the insanely fun acting and beautiful set pieces. Sorcerer's Stone -- probably still the worst one. it's not bad by any means, but it's so damn bright and childish and "hehe we're soooo british" at times that it kinda detracts from the magic shit. obviously the filmmakers had no idea what massive world they were walking into so it's hard to blame them but this one just doesn't have much replay value and it does not hold up visually at all. kinda fun to see what everyone was like before knowing where their characters would go tho.
Chamber of Secrets -- first half has the same struggles as the first movie but the second half SLAPS. as soon as people start getting petrified and the Tom Riddle story finds its legs, this movie gets really really good. the entire final battle is still probably the coolest set in the series and the basilisk still looks pretty good today.
Prisoner of Azkaban -- the 15,000 video essays on YT about this movie are pretty spot on. just gorgeous and perfect in every way as far as the movie goes. plot wise still great but i want so much more Sirius/Lupin/Wormtail shenanigans. i think the most jarring realization watching all of these is again is how little screentime Gary Oldman has in 3-5. he certainly uses it well, but give me more! the time traveling stuff actually holds up much better than i remembered?
Goblet of Fire -- still my favorite story. it's actually a pretty good looking movie too. everything about the tournament is bananas and Brendan Gleeson playing a character disguised as another character is the fucking best. all the Barty Crouch stuff is super good. the final act is still the most metal thing in the franchise. biggest issue is how the 3 schools are handled (LOL france is all pretty ladies and russia is burly men. neither are as smart as us brits!) and the dance sequence probably going on for a bit too long.
Order of the Phoenix -- definitely have a new appreciation for this one. i still hate how the ending is handled (too fast, inconsequential) but a lot of what goes on in the first 2 acts is super engrossing and really well shot. it's visibly obvious that Yates is trying to ape Cuaron's tricks and sometimes it doesn't work, but i definitely give him props for trying to keep that aesthetic. the whole 3rd act is kind of an inexplicable mess just to get to Sirius' death. as cool as Dumbledore vs Voldemort is, that scene is edited so obnoxiously that it's actually way harder to follow than i remembered.
Half Blood Prince -- so everyone keeps saying that this is the sleeper cell 2nd best film in the series. i've only seen it once when it came out and remember thinking it was fine but it's probably the book i cared about least so i didn't really care much either way at the time. i will say now it's way more engrossing visually and tonally than i recalled and the performances are really top notch. but i still dont think i care about the story? i dunno, it's like...we know the stakes and we know how bad things are getting. why is the whole film revolving around the school drama and teenage BS? i totally understand that it's a center theme of HP and needs to be included but it feels like it's a very uneven film and forgets to make you care about Dumbledore prior to his death. there's something peculiar about it and i think i might watch it once more today to see if i can pinpoint the issue or see if i can learn to like it.
Deathly Hallows Pt 1 -- uhh holy shit this is fantastic? again, only saw once before. i knew it was mostly trudging in the woods and infighting but i forgot how insanely dark and upsetting it is (how much it goes out of its way to show the Death Eaters usurping the government and turning Hogwarts into a prison.) the action is actually really good too, save for the shaky cam shit but that's a symptom of the era where every director was doing that horeshit. as much as we all want the big final battle of Pt 2, i really really loved the tension and waddling in sorrow of Pt 1. everything at Malfoy Manor is just peak HP geekdom and i loved it.
Deathly Hallows Pt 2 -- certainly a good payoff for how much emotion the series puts into every character (mostly -- i still don't like how little the film pays attention to things like George, Lupin, and Tonks' death, but i can't recall if the book actually shows those or if it's just mentioned after? also Bellatrix's death is treated as un-seriously as Sirius' but she also has way less screentime than i remembered so w/e.) but again i kinda liked the pre-battle stuff. Maggie Smith kinda steals the movie with her duel with Snape and then animating the stone knights like a giddy student. this is more of a complaint with Rowling but the fact that we're THIS close to the ending and there's still 5 horcruxes to smash and 2 deathly hallows to find makes for a LOT of plot getting in the way of the story. lots of McGuffins to find more McGuffins.
tl;dr 3 4 7.1 5 7.2 2 6 *1 mmk just rewatched 6 and nooooooooooooope still doesn't work for me. very pretty and very funny at times but it wastes probably an hour on Slughorn (who has more collective screentime than Sirius, Lupin, Tonks, Bellatrix, or any Weasley beside Ron do in the entire series) and the Ron Love and Luck Potion subplot that ultimately does little for his character. also realized this movie is obsessed with making Hermione and Ginny seem like useless damsels in distress. and using Dumbledore's illness as backstory filler really diminishes the finale so yeah, not a huge fan still.
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