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Post by dij22 on Nov 12, 2019 15:56:01 GMT -6
Lol they cheated against the Sox: |
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Post by Pale Hose on Nov 12, 2019 21:24:50 GMT -6
Giants hired Kapler as their new manager.
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Post by Tweet on Nov 12, 2019 21:55:15 GMT -6
I thought this was known for years |
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Post by Pale Hose on Nov 14, 2019 12:04:02 GMT -6
Deadline to accept the QO is 4pm (central) today, so I expect we'll get a little movement.
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Post by Xamnam on Nov 14, 2019 16:00:02 GMT -6
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Post by Xamnam on Nov 14, 2019 16:00:13 GMT -6
Will Smith to the Barves for 3 years.
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Post by Pale Hose on Nov 14, 2019 16:34:19 GMT -6
3/40 on the Smith Braves deal.
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Post by Pale Hose on Nov 14, 2019 16:35:37 GMT -6
Totally content letting Abreu go year to year at this point. The White Sox offered him a three year deal but safe to assume it would have been a much lower AAV.
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Post by teekoh on Nov 14, 2019 16:40:30 GMT -6
I have no problem with it either. If they work out a multi-year deal that makes sense during the season, I'm cool with that, too.
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Post by Pale Hose on Nov 14, 2019 18:06:19 GMT -6
Trout and Bellinger are MVPs, no big surprise.
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Post by krentist on Nov 15, 2019 6:27:08 GMT -6
But Bregman was on a better team
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Post by fancypants on Nov 19, 2019 8:54:07 GMT -6
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Post by Tweet on Nov 19, 2019 9:10:41 GMT -6
Man can't wait to see nothing come of this
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Post by monasterymonochrome on Nov 19, 2019 13:40:17 GMT -6
So.... now that it seems that:
1.) The Astros cheated to win the title throughout 2017
2.) They continued cheating in some capacity throughout 2018-2019
3.) This cheating was conducted systematically from the top to bottom of the organization, including executives, coaches, players, and scouts
4.) It encompassed multiple forms (trash cans, whistles, now "buzzing bandages")
5.) The MLB seems to have known about it and at least let it slide, perhaps covered it up a lil bit
How do we proceed?
I'm of the opinion that all management and executives involved need to be hit with a lifetime ban. This includes Luhnow and Hinch, and could possibly extend to any other coaches with direct involvement in orchestrating this system (i.e. Beltran or Cora). I'm not sure what to do about the players - but if this keeps getting worse, I could see hitting them with lengthy suspensions too. And of course this should also include hella fines and draft pick losses.
But also, as this keeps getting worse, I've been leaning further on the side of: 1.) The 2017 title should be vacated; 2.) Crane should have to sell the team; 3.) If Manfred helped to sweep this under the rug, he needs to go.
What do y'all think?
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Post by dij22 on Nov 19, 2019 13:47:32 GMT -6
I think a lifetime ban for Lunhow/Hinch is appropriate.
I could see MLB banning the players involved for this entire season and then devastate the franchise by taking away their 1st round picks and drastically reducing the bonus pool for like 5 years.
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Nov 19, 2019 13:48:33 GMT -6
The title should absolutely be vacated.
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Post by Pale Hose on Nov 19, 2019 13:58:14 GMT -6
I can't see MLB vacating the 2017 title. Fines, loss of draft picks, suspensions etc is more realistic.
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Post by fancypants on Nov 19, 2019 13:59:22 GMT -6
So.... now that it seems that: 1.) The Astros cheated to win the title throughout 2017 2.) They continued cheating in some capacity throughout 2018-2019 3.) This cheating was conducted systematically from the top to bottom of the organization, including executives, coaches, players, and scouts 4.) It encompassed multiple forms (trash cans, whistles, now "buzzing bandages") 5.) The MLB seems to have known about it and at least let it slide, perhaps covered it up a lil bit How do we proceed? I'm of the opinion that all management and executives involved need to be hit with a lifetime ban. This includes Luhnow and Hinch, and could possibly extend to any other coaches with direct involvement in orchestrating this system (i.e. Beltran or Cora). I'm not sure what to do about the players - but if this keeps getting worse, I could see hitting them with lengthy suspensions too. And of course this should also include hella fines and draft pick losses. But also, as this keeps getting worse, I've been leaning further on the side of: 1.) The 2017 title should be vacated; 2.) Crane should have to sell the team; 3.) If Manfred helped to sweep this under the rug, he needs to go. What do y'all think? I've seen everything but #5. Where can I find the story on this? |
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Post by Tweet on Nov 19, 2019 14:03:44 GMT -6
Man can't wait to see nothing come of this I mean it's not like they were gambling or anything |
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Post by Tweet on Nov 19, 2019 14:04:02 GMT -6
Or taking PEDs god could you even imagine
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Post by monasterymonochrome on Nov 19, 2019 14:10:27 GMT -6
So.... now that it seems that: 1.) The Astros cheated to win the title throughout 2017 2.) They continued cheating in some capacity throughout 2018-2019 3.) This cheating was conducted systematically from the top to bottom of the organization, including executives, coaches, players, and scouts 4.) It encompassed multiple forms (trash cans, whistles, now "buzzing bandages") 5.) The MLB seems to have known about it and at least let it slide, perhaps covered it up a lil bit How do we proceed? I'm of the opinion that all management and executives involved need to be hit with a lifetime ban. This includes Luhnow and Hinch, and could possibly extend to any other coaches with direct involvement in orchestrating this system (i.e. Beltran or Cora). I'm not sure what to do about the players - but if this keeps getting worse, I could see hitting them with lengthy suspensions too. And of course this should also include hella fines and draft pick losses. But also, as this keeps getting worse, I've been leaning further on the side of: 1.) The 2017 title should be vacated; 2.) Crane should have to sell the team; 3.) If Manfred helped to sweep this under the rug, he needs to go. What do y'all think? I've seen everything but #5. Where can I find the story on this? This tells us that 1.) the MLB knew there was something afoot, but 2.) they tried to get them to stop without an public acknowledgement of the Astros' wrongdoings This alone, IMO, is not enough to warrant Manfred's removal, but it is a very worrisome signal that the league office knew exactly what was going on and may have moved to cover it up. If this was true and I was a rival owner, I'd be livid at Manfred and searching for his successor. |
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Post by Tweet on Nov 19, 2019 14:12:57 GMT -6
I've seen everything but #5. Where can I find the story on this? This tells us that 1.) the MLB knew there was something afoot, but 2.) they tried to get them to stop without an public acknowledgement of the Astros' wrongdoings This alone, IMO, is not enough to warrant Manfred's removal, but it is a very worrisome signal that the league office knew exactly what was going on and may have moved to cover it up. If this was true and I was a rival owner, I'd be livid at Manfred and searching for his successor. They'll all have jobs within the Trump admiinstration a few months from now |
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Post by Kamera on Nov 20, 2019 12:45:47 GMT -6
LOL
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Post by venom on Nov 20, 2019 14:15:22 GMT -6
that logo is for an u-12 travel team.
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Post by Tweet on Nov 20, 2019 16:01:29 GMT -6
that logo is for an u-12 travel team. So is Orlando as a whole, so this makes sense |
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Post by fancypants on Nov 21, 2019 11:15:58 GMT -6
Grandal to the White Sox
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Post by Xamnam on Nov 21, 2019 11:23:11 GMT -6
Woaaaaaaaaah. Nice snag for them.
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Post by Xamnam on Nov 21, 2019 11:23:42 GMT -6
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Post by andrewvb on Nov 21, 2019 11:26:32 GMT -6
wow that's cool. seems like grandal came out ahead of what he turned down last year too.
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Post by Xamnam on Nov 21, 2019 11:27:41 GMT -6
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