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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 10:33:15 GMT -6
You are helping me prove a point though, and I'm sorry to use you as my example here, but look at the artists you listed above, off the top of your head, and then think about Earl Sweatshirt or even Frank Ocean. "Things that are important culturally" and "things that we deem actually good" are only small components of this question/answer IMO. Some of these acts put out good, even great, albums. Some of them absolutely ruled the decade. Big, big divide. The point's a fair one, but you also have to take into consideration the idea of a monoculture has absolutely shattered compared to those decades. Also true - but doesn't that also make it even more impressive when an artist like Beyonce or Taylor Swift can more or less transcend that and still be almost unarguably the biggest artist in existence? Whether you like 1989 or Lemonade or Push the Sky Away the most, I think we are missing the forest for trees. lets switch gears which star wars is the worst one |
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Post by Timbo on Dec 19, 2019 10:33:20 GMT -6
2000s - Radiohead, White Stripes, Outkast, Tool, Kanye
1990s - Radiohead, Nirvana, Tupac, Mariah Carey,
1980s - Sonic Youth, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Prince
1970s - David Bowie, The Clash, The Ramones, Led Zeppelin
1960s - Velvet Underground, Beatles, Kinks, Beach Boys
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 10:35:16 GMT -6
Oh I don't consider Earl to be an artist of the decade by any means, he had an impact and I was just using that to explain why Tyler, by helping bring Earl up, can somewhat be seen as influential for that reason. Frank I do though. I can see the argument for Beyonce and Drake as well, but I'd give it to Frank *shrug* It is harder for me to argue with Frank as a choice because I think one of the marks of "artist of the decade" is that they are not merely "influential," but to the degree that the entire pop music scene shifts to adjust/accept a new style. I still don't know that I'd cast my vote there but he's not out of place in that conversation. At the risk of sounding too simple about this, I just think it should be someone bigger. |
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Post by neader on Dec 19, 2019 10:35:18 GMT -6
The point's a fair one, but you also have to take into consideration the idea of a monoculture has absolutely shattered compared to those decades. Also true - but doesn't that also make it even more impressive when an artist like Beyonce or Taylor Swift can more or less transcend that and still be almost unarguably the biggest artist in existence? Whether you like 1989 or Lemonade or Push the Sky Away the most, I think we are missing the forest for trees. lets switch gears which star wars is the worst one Are they that influential though? What impact did 1989 or Push the Sky Away have on culture and society besides just being really good music? |
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Post by concertgoer on Dec 19, 2019 10:35:40 GMT -6
From that list Beyonce and it’s not even close.
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Post by claypoolfan on Dec 19, 2019 10:36:24 GMT -6
Frank is not the artist of the decade. I know everyone here (and a lot of hypebeasts around the world) love/loves him, but come on.
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Post by Tweet on Dec 19, 2019 10:36:34 GMT -6
2000s - Radiohead, White Stripes, Outkast, Tool, Kanye 1990s - Radiohead, Nirvana, Tupac, Mariah Carey, 1980s - Sonic Youth, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Prince 1970s - David Bowie, The Clash, The Ramones, Led Zeppelin 1960s - Velvet Underground, Beatles, Kinks, Beach Boys Where the hell are the Stones on this list |
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Post by claypoolfan on Dec 19, 2019 10:36:35 GMT -6
From that list Beyonce and it’s not even close. Yes this |
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 10:37:52 GMT -6
Also true - but doesn't that also make it even more impressive when an artist like Beyonce or Taylor Swift can more or less transcend that and still be almost unarguably the biggest artist in existence? Whether you like 1989 or Lemonade or Push the Sky Away the most, I think we are missing the forest for trees. lets switch gears which star wars is the worst one Are they that influential though? What impact did 1989 or Push the Sky Away have on culture and society besides just being really good music? Taylor Swift has had an almost immeasurable impact on society in this decade. |
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 10:40:11 GMT -6
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Post by Tweet on Dec 19, 2019 10:43:57 GMT -6
just curious to gain a little perspective in this conversation: im curious who your top artists of the 00s / 90s / 80s were, if you're answering the question. seeing opinions like "earl sweatshirt is huge" or even "why no nick cave" is blowing my mind. 00s- Radiohead, Eminem, Kanye, Coldplay, Blink-182 90s- Nirvana, Oasis, 2Pac, Pavement, Diddy/Puffy/whatever his name is 80s- Michael Jackson, Prince, Madonna, Springsteen, U2 70s- Bowie, Fleetwood Mac, Zeppelin, Stones, Ramones. And Queen/Stevie Wonder are right in the mix too 60s- The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Velvet Underground, The Who, Jimi Hendrix 50s- Elvis Presley, Ray Charles, Johnny Cash, Nina Simone, Buddy Holly |
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Post by Timbo on Dec 19, 2019 10:44:01 GMT -6
the only way really to get to the bottom of this is to have every boarder do a list of their top 200 artists of the decade. Then tabulate all of those lists. Then re-tabulate those lists. Then reverse those lists. Then scrap the whole project and agree that Grant Hart is.
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Post by sthubbins on Dec 19, 2019 10:48:05 GMT -6
I feel like in '09 it would have been uncontroversial to claim that a not-chart-topping artist was the most culturally impactful of the decade, especially on a forum like this
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Post by goodson on Dec 19, 2019 10:48:32 GMT -6
it's so clearly drake
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Post by goodson on Dec 19, 2019 10:49:20 GMT -6
all pop music is forged out of what drake was doing in the first half of the 2010's
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 10:50:59 GMT -6
all pop music is forged out of what drake was doing in the first half of the 2010's right remind me what hes been up to lately tho |
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Post by Xamnam on Dec 19, 2019 10:51:13 GMT -6
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Post by krentist on Dec 19, 2019 10:53:06 GMT -6
all pop music is forged out of what drake was doing in the first half of the 2010's right remind me what hes been up to lately tho Grooming minors |
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 19, 2019 10:53:32 GMT -6
all pop music is forged out of what drake was doing in the first half of the 2010's right remind me what hes been up to lately tho didnt he have the highest selling album of last year? |
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 10:54:21 GMT -6
right remind me what hes been up to lately tho didnt he have the highest selling album of last year? might've! huge crossover potential with the younger crowd i guess. |
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 19, 2019 10:54:25 GMT -6
right remind me what hes been up to lately tho Grooming minors a trait of at least 2 others of neader's artists of the decades |
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 10:55:09 GMT -6
a trait of at least 2 others of neader's artists of the decades right but they are also not the artist of the decade, i am happy to include drake in said category |
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Post by goodson on Dec 19, 2019 10:56:15 GMT -6
drake's sound became the blueprint for every pop artist to rip off and get an easy hit
i truly cannot deal
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Post by goodson on Dec 19, 2019 10:56:46 GMT -6
listen, drake is creepy!!!
but fuckers he is the most influential artist of the decade and it really isn't close
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 10:57:29 GMT -6
listen, drake is creepy!!! but fuckers he is the most influential artist of the decade and it really isn't close most influential artist of the decade is not the question tho it is a blanket statement he is disqualified. |
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 19, 2019 10:58:04 GMT -6
I mean that's kind of the way to look at it, no? And in that take the only true "correct" answers (of that list?) are either Kendrick or Beyonce Tyler led OFWGKTA into the mainstream, him, Frank, and Earl are huge now. OFWGKTA got white suburban kids into hip-hop like no one had except Eminem. That's why I chose him. If not him, I'd say Drake is #2, though I could easily be convinced to put him at #1. Kendrick is critically acclaimed but I don't see how he really has had a huge influence on the industry as a whole. lol |
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Post by goodson on Dec 19, 2019 10:58:32 GMT -6
listen, drake is creepy!!! but fuckers he is the most influential artist of the decade and it really isn't close most influential artist of the decade is not the question tho it is a blanket statement he is disqualified. if you'd like to run a sham poll be my guest!!!! |
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 10:59:10 GMT -6
most influential artist of the decade is not the question tho it is a blanket statement he is disqualified. if you'd like to run a sham poll be my guest!!!! i have already determined this week that rango has not seen pearl jam, my polling work is done until 2020 |
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 19, 2019 11:00:18 GMT -6
playing along with the poll i'll call kendrick the artist of the decade.
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Post by monasterymonochrome on Dec 19, 2019 11:00:26 GMT -6
Couldn’t vote for them so I chose the next logical option, Greta Van Fleet |
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