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Post by Pale Hose on Jul 21, 2022 12:19:08 GMT -6
If I had to bet I'd bet that they find a way to work it out. Even with ticket sales in decline the festival still seems to benefit both parties. What market and location would be better for Lolla than Chicago/Grant Park?
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Post by Kamera on Jul 21, 2022 12:23:36 GMT -6
Maybe finally turning Lollapalooza into two weekends like ACL and Coachella.
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Post by Pale Hose on Jul 21, 2022 12:39:17 GMT -6
I think the 4th day was the compromise since the city wouldn't offer two weekends. Although with NASCAR coming and assuming the Taste is still a thing, it sounds like the park is already going to be shut down for most of July anyway.
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Post by mookie on Jul 21, 2022 12:40:18 GMT -6
Maybe finally turning Lollapalooza into two weekends like ACL and Coachella. NO |
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Post by thebosma on Jul 21, 2022 12:40:55 GMT -6
If I had to bet I'd bet that they find a way to work it out. Even with ticket sales in decline the festival still seems to benefit both parties. What market and location would be better for Lolla than Chicago/Grant Park? Making the case for the park across the street from me in my neighborhood |
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Post by Pale Hose on Jul 21, 2022 12:41:33 GMT -6
Changing subjects, are they not going to announce Friday's aftershow at Metro until next week?
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Post by mookie on Jul 21, 2022 12:47:20 GMT -6
Changing subjects, are they not going to announce Friday's aftershow at Metro until next week? Maybe tomorrow? Trying to remember when they announced Them Crooked Vultures, I remember that was really close to the fest too Edit: I remember the Vampire Weekend show was announced on a Sunday, but I think that was still a couple of weeks before the show |
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Post by tacosaregood on Jul 21, 2022 12:50:58 GMT -6
Changing subjects, are they not going to announce Friday's aftershow at Metro until next week? Maybe a Monday announcement, Tuesday on sale? Would seem kind of crazy to have an in person only sale for Green Day? |
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Post by isyourbedmade on Jul 21, 2022 12:54:29 GMT -6
All I hope is that the tickets don’t go on sale at the same time as Springsteen Milwaukee ones go up on Wednesday. Foo fighters were announced on a Monday with the onsale Tuesday.
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Post by Pale Hose on Jul 21, 2022 12:54:47 GMT -6
Changing subjects, are they not going to announce Friday's aftershow at Metro until next week? Maybe tomorrow? Trying to remember when they announced Them Crooked Vultures, I remember that was really close to the fest too Edit: I remember the Vampire Weekend show was announced on a Sunday, but I think that was still a couple of weeks before the show Yeah Vampire weekend was announced on 7/15/18, so 3 full weeks in advance. I don't remember them ever cutting it this close before. |
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Post by Pale Hose on Jul 21, 2022 12:56:05 GMT -6
Changing subjects, are they not going to announce Friday's aftershow at Metro until next week? Maybe a Monday announcement, Tuesday on sale? Would seem kind of crazy to have an in person only sale for Green Day? If they do in person I'm screwed, I'll be out of town Mon-Weds for work. |
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Post by alady on Jul 21, 2022 13:16:26 GMT -6
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Post by venom on Jul 21, 2022 13:16:53 GMT -6
All I hope is that the tickets don’t go on sale at the same time as Springsteen Milwaukee ones go up on Wednesday. Foo fighters were announced on a Monday with the onsale Tuesday. yeah, foo fighters in 2011 was very late. i heard over the prior weekend (and recall some old boarders being convinced it'd be coldplay). i think they did a regular on-sale mid-week and then dropped another ticket batch later in the week too. |
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Post by venom on Jul 21, 2022 13:24:07 GMT -6
Changing subjects, are they not going to announce Friday's aftershow at Metro until next week? Maybe tomorrow? Trying to remember when they announced Them Crooked Vultures, I remember that was really close to the fest too Edit: I remember the Vampire Weekend show was announced on a Sunday, but I think that was still a couple of weeks before the show them crooked vultures was the tuesday or wednesday before the weekend. i recall they teased it with logos from the members' other bands. |
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Post by joeposh on Jul 21, 2022 13:56:25 GMT -6
I really don't think Chicago can afford to lose Lolla right now, and Lori is looking for any economic wins she can get (and the tax revenue is significant). I think C3/Livenation holds some pretty good cards here but also has an incentive to make a deal after seeing how new/spinoff/relocating festivals have fared the past two years.
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Post by Tweet on Jul 21, 2022 14:00:45 GMT -6
Moving Lolla to Arkansas or whatever I’m sure would go over about as well as anything else in Arkansas.
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Post by Kamera on Jul 21, 2022 14:06:18 GMT -6
I heard St. Louis needs a festival after Lou Fest went defunct.
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Post by Pale Hose on Jul 21, 2022 14:39:23 GMT -6
I heard St. Louis needs a festival after Lou Fest went defunct. I don't think that would align well with Live Nation/C3's goal of making money. |
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Post by Tweet on Jul 21, 2022 14:48:41 GMT -6
It’s true, St. Louis is a poor people town
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Post by mookie on Jul 21, 2022 14:59:13 GMT -6
Lolla in City Museum, and you have to climb up to the high spots to see the good bands
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Post by thebosma on Jul 21, 2022 15:04:27 GMT -6
I’m not going back to St Louis, chvrchbarrel gave me Covid there
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Post by Tweet on Jul 21, 2022 15:35:15 GMT -6
Glad this stupid fest was able to book Salesforce as an act 3 outta 4 days
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Post by ten15 on Jul 21, 2022 15:36:15 GMT -6
The chatter I heard from a friend in the entertainment industry, is that Chicago has a very expensive cost structure for a festival (union workers for almost everything, taxes, the costs to reconstruct Grant Park, especially if it rains, etc.). So it seemed like Live Nation/C3 was saying they would leave (perhaps just as a bargaining tactic?) I also heard that Porno for Pyros playing was sort of a parting gift for Perry.
This may be just gossip, but she has been right about things in the entertainment industry in the past.
*shrug*
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Post by Tweet on Jul 21, 2022 15:48:08 GMT -6
Ah so live nation is just gonna go “no one wants to work anymore” here huh
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Post by nanatod on Jul 21, 2022 16:46:33 GMT -6
(and recall some old boarders being convinced it'd be coldplay). coldplay? I take back what I said in the other recent thread about radiohead. |
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Post by nanatod on Jul 21, 2022 16:49:56 GMT -6
I’m not going back to St Louis I haven't been back to stl in more than 2 decades, but am spitballing w/ the better half about driving down there in october, and staying in clayton, to see patd at the enterprise concert place. [patd's upcoming show in chicago is during riot fest, so that's out]. still have a couple of pals in stl, so it'd be a chance to say hey to them, also. |
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Post by c1916 on Jul 21, 2022 20:08:07 GMT -6
Chicago has a very expensive cost structure for a festival (union workers for almost everything) I'm involved behind the scenes at a few large events in Chicago and I can tell you with absolute certainty that the union rules are onerous. I was working the expo at one of Chicago's largest footraces  and talking about wifi (since I wanted to stream a soccer match during my shift  ) with the guy charged with bringing it in (since they aren't allowed to run their own). They paid $50k (ish) for 2 days of wifi that was capped at 100GB. (I don't remember the upload/download rate, but it wasn't enough to stream). Needless to say, we couldn't give the wifi password to anyone on the off chance we exceeded the data cap and were unable to manage runner needs. There was literally no option. We're inside a union building, the event contract stipulated who can bring in the service and the price of that service. I think it's safe to say that the costs for other events in the city are similarly bumped by union requirements, but I'm by no means laying all complaints about how much shit costs on the unions. |
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Post by doctorace on Jul 22, 2022 9:14:01 GMT -6
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Post by thebosma on Jul 22, 2022 9:24:04 GMT -6
It’s so sick that they put out shit like that and then prevent people from bringing in narcan because it’s “paraphernalia”. Remember when that guy almost died a few years ago and the medics/security basically ignored him until someone repeatedly insisted it was a medical emergency? Very cool!
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Post by Tweet on Jul 22, 2022 9:43:30 GMT -6
It’s important to save lives but it’s more important to not be sued by 3rd parties
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and talking about wifi (since I wanted to stream a soccer match during my shift 
) with the guy charged with bringing it in (since they aren't allowed to run their own). They paid $50k (ish) for 2 days of wifi that was capped at 100GB. (I don't remember the upload/download rate, but it wasn't enough to stream). Needless to say, we couldn't give the wifi password to anyone on the off chance we exceeded the data cap and were unable to manage runner needs. There was literally no option. We're inside a union building, the event contract stipulated who can bring in the service and the price of that service. 
