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Post by Timbo on Aug 3, 2020 8:14:21 GMT -6
Moonraker - This wasn't the steaming pile of shit I remembered it to be. It's still not very good, but when I saw it as a young lad I remember hating it. I think a lot of that stems from a.) being a young lad and b.) high expectations because of the moonraker laser in Goldeneye for N64 being the awesome weapon it was. The laser is in fact in this movie, which is good, and that's actually the best part is the firefight between between Team Bond and Team Drax.
Speaking of Team Bond, remember the other day when I said the character of Jaws was sabotaged in this film? Still accurate. After and awkward cable car fight, and falling for a mute woman who is not only half his size but way out of his league (because she has regular teeth), Jaws decides to be Bond's friend in a very strange and nonsensical twist. Doing research I found that originally at the end of The Spy Who Loved Me, Jaws was supposed to die by...get this...getting eaten by a shark. Test audiences didn't like that, they responded to Jaws so well that he returns in this film, and becomes a good guy. Though we never see him again after this.
The Bond girl is Holly Goodhead....sigh.... but she's not the worst of the bunch, she actually is a CIA agent (surprise!). Hugo Drax sucks as a bad guy and reminds me of Orson Welles for some reason. Also, this film was advertised as Bond in space, despite that not happening until the latter half of the film and really only like the last 20 minutes. At least the villain's evil plan isn't to hold the world ransom, and is instead to just kill a bunch of people. Alas, this film garnered an Oscar nomination, and up to this point in the series was the highest grossing. It's not the worst Bond film ever like I originally had felt, but it's an obvious step down from the last one. Moore is showing his age by this time more than any other Bond had, and when he is kissing a woman and his leather face starts to crunch up I cringe - for comparison sake, Moore was 50 during this, and the actress playing Goodhead Lois Chiles was 30. Age is just a number, but leather is leather. So awkward. Almost as awkward as the zero gravity love scene to finish out the film. So unsettling.
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1. Goldfinger 2. From Russia With Love 3. Goldeneye 4. Thunderball 5. Dr. No 6. Live and Let Die 7. The Spy Who Loved Me 8. The World Is Not Enough 9. Die Another Day 10. Diamonds Are Forever 11. Tomorrow Never Dies 12. Moonraker 13. You Only Live Twice 14. The Man With the Golden Gun 15. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 8:19:06 GMT -6
agreed. the extra scenes only positively added to the film -- but i did think it was understandable why most were cut. generally speaking they just focus more on how shitty christian and his friends are. definitely not bad character development but kinda unnecessary as far as the main story goes. the stone throwing scene would've been nice to keep for theaters though.
edit: irt midsommar
kinda bummed that this version doesnt have any special features but my first copy of Midsommar and Hereditary dont either so maybe it's just not a thing Ari is interested in
also we watched Guns Akimbo saturday and it's fine! if you've seen Deathgasm then i dont think anything here is gonna shock you but it's a fun dystopian premise about twitch/livestreaming and we live in a society style vouyerism and such. the style is basically an edgar wright ripoff with way more dick jokes and blood but i was cool with that. soundtrack is silly af and it totally works. Radcliffe and Weaving are a hoot together and i think that bad guy is criminally underrated (he's also in Good Omens and Mandy and steals both of those as well)
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Post by zircona1 on Aug 3, 2020 9:17:22 GMT -6
Almost as awkward as the zero gravity love scene to finish out the film. So unsettling. "I believe he's attempting re-entry, sir."
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Post by Kamera on Aug 3, 2020 11:28:37 GMT -6
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Post by llamaoftime on Aug 3, 2020 13:25:12 GMT -6
Before Sunrise was wonderful. Watching Before Sunset today and Before Midnight at some point this week. I've had the Criterion blu-ray set for years but hadn't got to it- I tried to watch Before Sunrise with an ex a few years ago and like 30 minutes in she proclaimed she was bored and didn't want to watch it anymore even though I was loving it and just got back around to it now. Probably good that she's an ex
But yeah the chemistry between Ethan Hawke and Julie Delpy was great and I just loved the dialogue in it. And that little whimsical romance set in a foreign country like that resonated and felt nice, albeit kind of sad, in these times of stuck in the house.
I think I'm on a movie kick which I haven't been most of quarantine so might hit the backlog. The big two on it right now are Hereditary (I'm kind of scared though because I'm a wimp) and The Lighthouse, both of which I imagine I'll love because I love slow build horror movies. And for some brevity, after hearing a bit about a film called Greener Grass on Hulu I want to check that out, apparently it's hilarious and I could use a good comedy.
And then if I get really wild, was considering doing a month of the Criterion Channel because I really want to see Scenes from a Marriage. I imagine that I'll do the Television version for that, splitting it up into pieces sounds easier anyway to finish and that's generally considered the proper version to watch right? And maybe that'll lead to a Bergman kick because the only film I've seen from him is Persona. The other big two on my list are The Seventh Seal and Winter Light
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Post by neader on Aug 3, 2020 13:26:16 GMT -6
Wow I've seen like every film you mentioned I am now a certified film buff
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Post by llamaoftime on Aug 3, 2020 13:29:55 GMT -6
Wow I've seen like every film you mentioned I am now a certified film buff I knew I was in the grand scheme of things a film novice but I didn't know how much of one I was until this post now
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Post by thebosma on Aug 3, 2020 13:34:17 GMT -6
And then if I get really wild, was considering doing a month of the Criterion Channel because I really want to see Scenes from a Marriage. I imagine that I'll do the Television version for that, splitting it up into pieces sounds easier anyway to finish and that's generally considered the proper version to watch right? And maybe that'll lead to a Bergman kick because the only film I've seen from him is Persona. The other big two on my list are The Seventh Seal and Winter Light Scenes is great. Bergman does family drama so well. Definitely do the TV version of that one. Winter Light is good though maybe not in the first 5 Bergman films I'd recommend. Definitely try out Wild Strawberries and Autumn Sonata
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Post by llamaoftime on Aug 3, 2020 13:38:15 GMT -6
And then if I get really wild, was considering doing a month of the Criterion Channel because I really want to see Scenes from a Marriage. I imagine that I'll do the Television version for that, splitting it up into pieces sounds easier anyway to finish and that's generally considered the proper version to watch right? And maybe that'll lead to a Bergman kick because the only film I've seen from him is Persona. The other big two on my list are The Seventh Seal and Winter Light Scenes is great. Bergman does family drama so well. Definitely do the TV version of that one. Winter Light is good though maybe not in the first 5 Bergman films I'd recommend. Definitely try out Wild Strawberries and Autumn Sonata I was specifically interested in Winter Light because apparently it was a huge influence on First Reformed which is a film I love, and art that deals with religion in interesting ways interests me a lot. That being said I'll definitely look into those two suggestions.
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Post by thebosma on Aug 3, 2020 13:48:19 GMT -6
Scenes is great. Bergman does family drama so well. Definitely do the TV version of that one. Winter Light is good though maybe not in the first 5 Bergman films I'd recommend. Definitely try out Wild Strawberries and Autumn Sonata I was specifically interested in Winter Light because apparently it was a huge influence on First Reformed which is a film I love, and art that deals with religion in interesting ways interests me a lot. That being said I'll definitely look into those two suggestions. Very much so. I wouldn't try to steer you away from it at all, just go in knowing it's heavily dialogue based. You would like all of the faith trilogy then, Winter Light, Through a Glass Darkly, and The Silence all get into the faith themes. He's really big on those throughout most of his career. An interesting fun fact is that he was religious up until his death, though his films often wrangle with the ideas of faith and salvation. Max von Sydow considered himself an agnostic/atheist most of his life but as Bergman got older and closer to death he told Von Sydow that he would prove to him after his death that there was an afterlife through some sort of unmistakable sign. In an interview a handful of years ago he said that Bergman had indeed sent him the sign and he definitely believed in the afterlife but wouldn't elaborate any further. Crazy stuff.
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Post by llamaoftime on Aug 3, 2020 19:42:08 GMT -6
Ok finished the Before Trilogy. That was utterly fantastic.
Before Sunset felt at first more like an epilogue to Sunrise but still very good and good ending. I think its my least favorite of the three but yet still very necessary viewing
But then it set up for Midnight so well and that may have been my favorite. But it's so much better in context with the other two.
What a set of films wow
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 12:31:45 GMT -6
Any scene with English Bob and Gene Hackman was the best fucking part.
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Post by ultravisitor on Aug 4, 2020 12:53:53 GMT -6
On Friday, I finally got around to watching Mustang. I liked it.
Yesterday, I watched War of the Worlds. I didn't like it.
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Post by Kamera on Aug 4, 2020 14:51:52 GMT -6
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Post by thebosma on Aug 4, 2020 14:59:04 GMT -6
I watched A Brighter Summer Day last night and it was fucking incredible. I also just finished The Conversation and was really surprised by how much I liked it.
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Aug 5, 2020 8:25:23 GMT -6
Caught Mad Max on the criterion channel last night and loved it. A lot.
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Post by llamaoftime on Aug 5, 2020 14:46:29 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 22:11:07 GMT -6
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Post by llamaoftime on Aug 6, 2020 9:03:13 GMT -6
Well then
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Post by clouddead on Aug 6, 2020 18:22:09 GMT -6
Fuck yeah
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Post by alady on Aug 6, 2020 18:55:44 GMT -6
Lakeith Stanfield in everything please
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Post by andrewvb on Aug 6, 2020 19:04:29 GMT -6
damn that was a kick ass trailer
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Post by Timbo on Aug 6, 2020 20:50:56 GMT -6
For Your Eyes Only - I think it was chvrchbarrel who said, a few pages back, that all Bond films are the same. At first I was like "dude bruh, wut?" because to me, the Daniel Craig films are hardly as formulaic as the older ones. But having now watched every Bond film from the 60s and 70s, and now crossing into the 80s, I can definitively state that 90% of the Bond franchise is utterly formulaic.
With the Brosnan era it seemed writers and directors teased that "hey, women are people too" but they didn't actually believe it. Hence the terrible names like Xenia Onatopp. But with Casino Royale in 2006 it seemed the times were shifting more towards a realism in film, and while I don't consider Bond films to be groundbreaking films, the modern ones at least try to be less misogynistic.
So the reason for this diversion is because of this peculiar entry in the series. Let's get the obvious stuff out of the way. Moore is too old. The acting is dreadful. Some of the worst in the series. The villain is pathetic. The story is... okayish. The main thing to take away from For Your Eyes Only outside of the horrible song, is the writers attempt at making a Bond girl with a purpose. Instead of just being eye candy, Melina Havelock has a goal for, from what I can tell, the first time in the series (excluding those taking place after). Her subplot of revenge was mimicked obviously in later films, but Havelock is written with purpose, even if it it fails to connect. Carole Bouquet is clearly not interested in this movie, so her acting is one of the most phoned in next to Moore's (scratch that, everyone's acting sucks here). But the attempt is there, and it was interesting that instead of dressing her in provocative clothing, she was purposely dressed down in drab ensembles that either hide her figure, and/or are completely eye diverting.
It's this aspect that makes the movie just a bit more tolerable. Plus, there's a very clever - except completely not cost efficient - attempt to kill Bond and Havelock via dragging them through shark infested waters. The scene is well shot, and I actually was intrigued by how Bond would get out of it. Prior to this scene there's an awkward but enjoyable under water encounter that tries to be intense but it's not, but to it's credit its inventive. Also, one issue I've had with the previous films is the lack of music outside of the normal Bond theme. Well that stops in the 80s b/c there's a funky synth riddled track being played often and it's annoying.
Looping back around, I do think that Bond films in general are more enjoyable as they keep things in the realm of possibility. Bond going to space isn't very probable, nor is a space station secret hideout. And while there's questionable validity to voodoo, Live and Let Die's central villain is as real as it gets. Fast forward to the latest film Spectre, it's highly probably that a group of rich evil white men could conceivably rent out a building for their convention, the Republicans do it all the time. So this one does feel a little bit more realistic, even if the stunts are slightly over the top for someone like Roger Moore, but it's not a total waste.
However, this entry has one of the worst and most pointless subplots in the entire series: the teenage gymnast who has a crush on Bond. It's so creepy. Thankfully he makes no advances on her, but this literally has no impact on the story. It's there simply as a diversion I suppose. This seems like a poor attempt at making Bond desirable to women of all ages which is so disgusting, and while it might have been okay for the old 90s cartoon "James Bond Jr.," I find it even more disturbing since her parents don't see any issue with it and even encourage Bond to spend time with their teenage daughter ALONE. I mean, wtf ya'll. He's 100 years old and she's 16. Fuckin white people. Also, we get another MI6 interrupting Bond during coitus for some last minute "laughs" and this time the talking bird owned by Havelock gets to fool a poorly cast Margaret Thatcher clone into thinking Bond's hitting on her. Just terrible. These movies are actually better without the me having to see, hear, or have any form of sex with Roger Moore insinuated.
Official Ranking
1. Goldfinger 2. From Russia With Love 3. Goldeneye 4. Thunderball 5. Dr. No 6. Live and Let Die 7. The Spy Who Loved Me 8. The World Is Not Enough 9. Die Another Day 10. For Your Eyes Only 11. Diamonds Are Forever 12. Tomorrow Never Dies 13. Moonraker 14. You Only Live Twice 15. The Man With the Golden Gun 16. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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Post by claypoolfan on Aug 7, 2020 7:26:43 GMT -6
Music Box is going to be showing Tenet in 70mm as soon as September 3rd..........
I might go to a movie you guys.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 7:40:27 GMT -6
Film on the Rocks 2020:
WEEK 1 (Aug. 13-16)
Thursday, Aug. 13 – GREASE Friday, Aug. 14 – STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON Saturday, Aug. 15 – SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE Sunday, Aug. 16 – THE GOONIES
WEEK 2 (Aug. 20-23)
Thursday, Aug. 20 – CLUELESS Friday, Aug. 21 – SCREAM Saturday, Aug. 22 – THE BIG LEBOWSKI Sunday, Aug. 23 – RUDY
WEEK 3 (Aug. 27-30)
Thursday, Aug. 27 – FERRIS BUELLER’S DAY OFF Friday, Aug. 28 – ROBOCOP Saturday, Aug. 29 – JURASSIC PARK Sunday, Aug. 30 – FIELD OF DREAMS
$59.50 per car, per evening. and include a package including “two bottles of Coca-Cola product, City Pop popcorn, and theater-sized M&M’s and Twizzlers,”
Not going to lie, it'd be fun as hell to see Robocop on a giant screen outside Red Rocks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 7:42:53 GMT -6
Also of note:
“The plan is to keep it going into November and use that LED screen as part of the Denver Film Festival, rather than opening at the Ellie (Caulkins Opera House),” said Britta Erickson, director of the Denver Film Festival. “Some distributors only want their films screened theatrically, and we’re negotiating with them to see if the drive-in screen fits the bill.”
The screen is the largest in Colorado.
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Post by thebosma on Aug 7, 2020 8:03:45 GMT -6
I’d buy that for a dollar!
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Post by krentist on Aug 7, 2020 8:05:00 GMT -6
Pickle Rick with Seth Rogaine or whatever it's called is fine. The best part is Tim Robinson
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Post by munkivelli on Aug 7, 2020 21:16:17 GMT -6
Really dug I Used to Go Here. It just felt weird seeing a university in Carbondale called Illinois University.
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Post by thebosma on Aug 7, 2020 21:26:54 GMT -6
Is it not about SIU-Carbondale?
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