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Post by munkivelli on Aug 7, 2020 21:29:21 GMT -6
Is it not about SIU-Carbondale? Presumably...they just renamed the university, I think, because plot.
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Post by thebosma on Aug 7, 2020 21:30:48 GMT -6
Is it not about SIU-Carbondale? Presumably...they just renamed the university, I think, because plot. Weird lol
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Post by munkivelli on Aug 7, 2020 21:34:55 GMT -6
Presumably...they just renamed the university, I think, because plot. Weird lol I'm too lazy to do spoiler posts but I assume sketchy things involving university staff had to do with it...but it's also funny because its very clearly a university in Carbondale.
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Post by alady on Aug 8, 2020 0:23:01 GMT -6
Like how in Back to School, UW-Madison is Grand Lakes University.
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Post by Kamera on Aug 8, 2020 21:29:26 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 12:32:14 GMT -6
Also I've had the Criterion set of these movies for like 3 years and somehow have never watched Before Midnight - I've watched Before Sunrise and Before Sunset twice in that span. Finally loaded the disc in last night only to find that my sound bar and PS3 aren't syncing correctly and I can't switch back to the TV speakers for some reason. Goddammit.
Also also, Before Sunset is pretty much a perfect movie. I find new things I love about it with each viewing.
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Post by thebosma on Aug 9, 2020 12:44:53 GMT -6
Before Sunset is probably the best in the trilogy.
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Post by munkivelli on Aug 9, 2020 13:20:43 GMT -6
Before Sunset is my favorite of the three for sure, and has one of my all-time favorite film endings. Before Sunrise is a fine film, but doesn't have the same impact as Before Sunset (a necessary prerequisite tho). Before Midnight is excellent too, but I don't feel compelled to go back to it as much because it's kind of brutal.
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Post by llamaoftime on Aug 9, 2020 14:01:34 GMT -6
The more I sit on them the more I love all three of those movies. I originally thought Sunset was third on my list but I might put it before Midnight. Spoilering next part since Scoots said he hasnt watched Midnight The high points of Before Midnight are incredible (albeit brutal I'd agree with that) but I thought the dinner scene with the couples dragged on a little too long, and maybe my least favorite part of all three (though it's still fine), which is funny because its pretty much the only extended scene that features other actors. The other three big parts though, dropping his son off at the airport, the car conversation, and the final argument I think are maybe the best of the series.
Sunset though is pretty much perfect, like I can't say I have any complaints, so it's fair to put that ahead. But man I just adored Sunrise and it has some of the most romantic scenes I've ever seen in a film and I loved watching it develop. I feel like I'd appreciate Sunset even more though with another rewatch
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Post by munkivelli on Aug 9, 2020 14:41:20 GMT -6
Having watched these films in roughly the timeline in which they were released (saw Sunrise the first time two years after it came out, but the other two in the year they came out), I feel like there's a lot to be said for aging with these films, as opposed to marathoning them all at once. I can't imagine watching them this way would be nearly as impactful, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Aug 9, 2020 15:56:47 GMT -6
I never chimed in here, but I happened to watch Sunset roughly a week before LOT and didn’t love it. I had seen Sunrise a year or so prior and thoroughly enjoyed it...so I guess it’s time for me to tackle Midnight.
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Post by krentist on Aug 9, 2020 16:06:04 GMT -6
Sunset is the best of the trilogy thank you for coming to my TED talk and I won't be reading your replies
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Post by jazzpolice on Aug 9, 2020 16:09:27 GMT -6
Having watched these films in roughly the timeline in which they were released (saw Sunrise the first time two years after it came out, but the other two in the year they came out), I feel like there's a lot to be said for aging with these films, as opposed to marathoning them all at once. I can't imagine watching them this way would be nearly as impactful, but maybe I'm wrong. I saw all three when they originally released and I agree it's strange to think of seeing them all in relatively quick succession, or even with the knowledge there is more than one. Sunset was probably my favorite on first watch and I think a large part of that is the fact I was just elated to be able to spend more time with these characters after so long. And I think for both sequels they gave a very short notice before they dropped in theaters so that made it feel even more special.
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Post by jazzpolice on Aug 9, 2020 16:12:41 GMT -6
(Bad Genius) Surprisingly great Thai high school drama that plays more like a heist flick. Currently on Netflix.
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Post by munkivelli on Aug 9, 2020 17:13:10 GMT -6
Having watched these films in roughly the timeline in which they were released (saw Sunrise the first time two years after it came out, but the other two in the year they came out), I feel like there's a lot to be said for aging with these films, as opposed to marathoning them all at once. I can't imagine watching them this way would be nearly as impactful, but maybe I'm wrong. I saw all three when they originally released and I agree it's strange to think of seeing them all in relatively quick succession, or even with the knowledge there is more than one. Sunset was probably my favorite on first watch and I think a large part of that is the fact I was just elated to be able to spend more time with these characters after so long. And I think for both sequels they gave a very short notice before they dropped in theaters so that made it feel even more special. Yeah, I remember being so stoked when Before Sunset was announced and made the trip down to Royal Oak to see it ASAP. That inherently fueled speculation that there could be another film 9 years down the road, so Before Midnight was a little less of a surprise, but they did a great job of keeping that under wraps. It seems doubtful that there will be another one in 2022, but we really can't say with certainty that there won't be. To all those going back and watching these films or watching them for the first time, there is a Jesse and Celine segment in Waking Life. Not really canon because that whole film was supposed to be a dream, but it was fun seeing those characters revisited in rotoscoped animation form before we ever knew there was going to be a second film.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 20:47:18 GMT -6
I originally had watched Before Sunrise and Before Sunset around their release dates. Didn't really register anything about Before Sunrise until I rewatched it in advance of seeing Before Sunset. I love both movies, but Before Sunset is one of my all time favorites.
I think I've delayed Before Midnight because I know it's going to crush me.
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Post by thebosma on Aug 9, 2020 21:26:55 GMT -6
Well this was uhhh upsetting
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 8:05:20 GMT -6
Mucho, Mucho Amor: The Legend of Walter Mercado was so sweet and wholesome
Tread which is about the guy in colorado in 2004 who built his own 'killdozer' and went on a rampage to destroy the whole town and it's REALLY good. bit of slow backstory at the beginning to explain the guy's motivations but it pays off in third act. highly recommend. (for the record, no one died or was hurt save for the perpetrator in the incident, so it's not the type of doc that glorifies a killer or anything. way more of a psychological character study into small town politics and such)
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Post by ultravisitor on Aug 10, 2020 8:14:02 GMT -6
I watched Before Sunset a few days ago, as well. I remember seeing both Before Sunrise and Before Sunset in theaters. I liked Before Sunrise, but I loved Before Sunset. Being close in age and experience to the characters really made that one resonate. I remember watching it at Landmark, and the audience let out the most wonderful gasp at the end. Perfect ending <3
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Post by alady on Aug 10, 2020 8:34:36 GMT -6
I have never seen any of those movies and suspect they are for dudes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 8:36:51 GMT -6
Welp my wife who hardly ever watches a movie twice insisted on rewatching Before Sunset with me. She loves it. It's written by Hawke and Delpy, so I'm not sure where you'd get that it's just for dudes.
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Post by thebosma on Aug 10, 2020 8:52:10 GMT -6
They were a part of my favorite criterion channel feature last month called “Essentials of Dudes Rock Cinema”
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 8:58:27 GMT -6
Good news is we have an entertainment center coming in this week so I can finally watch Before Midnight. Prepare for #sadscoots
Almost as excited to check out some of the Criterion features I had been avoiding because they discussed the third movie.
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Post by alady on Aug 10, 2020 9:30:06 GMT -6
I just feel like whenever I've heard gushing about it over the years it's been from dudes 🤷♀️
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Post by Timbo on Aug 10, 2020 9:30:48 GMT -6
Octopussy - Welcome to, what appears to be, rock bottom. This is just such a slog to get through. Unbelievably dull except for a few exciting action pieces - while goofy af, the opening sequence is filmed well. The climax is impressively dangerous too for a stuntman. But that's about all this has going for it. I feel like after the last one, a bunch white dudes were sitting in an office and the topic was "what race has Bond NOT had sex with? Oh I know, Indian women!" and so they picked the title from a short story, but didn't adapt the actual story and instead made up some new crap. And Maud Adams plays a different Bond girl, despite having played Andrea Anders in the Man With the Golden Gun. She's even worse here, as a leader of gypsies and circus freaks that have this totally ridiculous method for sneaking into the bad guys complex, that doesn't make a lot of sense considering how poor his security is to begin with. The whole plot is convoluted in fact, and feels rushed (despite being 2 hrs and 10 minutes). Apparently when they announced Never Say Never Again, MGMG/UA rushed to get this made first, so they paid Roger Moore more than he was worth. They were already eye-balling Timothy Dalton for years before his debut and this is another example of studios just trying to make a quick buck.
Speaking of Moore, I think this one has the most dialogue ever from him. Usually he's just the Quip Machine 2000, and has very little actual lines, but here he gives an intense speech about the bomb thats gonna kill a bunch of people and yadda yadda yadda. But this sudden and long overdue intensity actually felt natural, but then it's squandered by having him dress in a gorilla outfit, and then as a clown. Yup. Gorilla costume. Clown costume. This is that movie. More sad than funny. The villain sucks in this too, like really hard, but his entourage has some lethal sidekicks specifically Magda who out of the blue knows karate. The acting dreadful, there's a moment where a guard waves his gun in the air pretending to fire and the sound is not synced correctly, which I thought was funny. Maud uses a club of some sort on several security guards and you can see it bend every time, but the guard collapses.
I really feel this era of Bond is the worst. I'm so glad the modern one's moved away from this overtly sexist narrative of Bond being the ultimate sex symbol to women everywhere, and this time around they even involve Q! Q exits a hot air balloon and several gypsy women throw themselves at him for absolutely zero reason. I think it's time for a woman to write and direct a James Bond film. Thus far only Johanna Harwood has received any writing credit for a Bond film and it was for Dr. No, and From Russia With Love. A majority of these are written by the same male tandem for each era and it clearly shows.
Official Ranking
1. Goldfinger 2. From Russia With Love 3. Goldeneye 4. Thunderball 5. Dr. No 6. Live and Let Die 7. The Spy Who Loved Me 8. The World Is Not Enough 9. Die Another Day 10. For Your Eyes Only 11. Diamonds Are Forever 12. Tomorrow Never Dies 13. Moonraker 14. You Only Live Twice 15. The Man With the Golden Gun 16. Octopussy 17. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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Post by thebosma on Aug 10, 2020 9:40:22 GMT -6
I just feel like whenever I've heard gushing about it over the years it's been from dudes 🤷♀️ The criterion edition actually requires you to rest your dick and balls at a certain spot to open it, so I understand the divide
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Post by alady on Aug 10, 2020 9:49:23 GMT -6
It could just be that dudes drown out all other voices when it comes to film, I'm not 100%
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 10:02:20 GMT -6
Yeah but I mean we're not talking about a Gerard Butler movie here.
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Post by krentist on Aug 10, 2020 10:21:47 GMT -6
It could just be that dudes drown out all other voices when it comes to film, I'm not 100% Women have corny taste in movies whereas men appreciate real cinema like the Dark Knight and Fight Club \m/ \m/ Dudes rock am I right folks
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