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Post by anime on Jul 24, 2017 7:16:09 GMT -6
How was NIN? Looking at the setlist, I feel like it's weaker than the arena show (aside from being three songs shorter, which is understandable). Piggy > Something I Can Never Have and Survivalism is DEF greater than The Great Destroyer which I think is a pretty meh song. Regardless, would love to hear impressions.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 7:54:54 GMT -6
More bands announced for MDF XVI!
Cognizant Cripple Bastards (Italy) Defeated Sanity (Germany) Dusk Gateway to Hell Gonkulator Helmet Horrible Earth Integrity Khemmis Master's Hammer (Czech Republic) Pessimist Petrification Pure Hiss Pig Destroyer The Ruins of Beverast (Germany) Suffering Hour Today is the Day (Temple of the Morning Star set) Violation Wound
4-day passes are on sale NOW! Order your ticket here: www.eventbrite.com/e/maryland-deathfest-2018-tickets-35649256887
Many more bands (including 2 headliners) will be announced soon!
Updated list of confirmed bands for MDF XVI:
-(16)- Abhomine Bloodbath Blood Incantation Broken Hope Chthe'ilist Cognizant Coven Cripple Bastards Defeated Sanity Destroyed in Seconds Dead Infection Durian Dusk Enemy Soil Evoken Eyehategod Gateway to Hell God Dethroned Gonkulator Gutted Helmet Horrible Earth Integrity Khemmis Lord Gore Master's Hammer Opera IX Pessimist Petrification Phrenelith Pig Destroyer Pure Hiss Ritual Necromancy The Ruins of Beverast Sadistic Intent Sinister Sublime Cadaveric Decomposition Suffering Hour Today is the Day Ufomammut Violation Wound Wormrot Zemial
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Post by borracho on Jul 24, 2017 8:25:38 GMT -6
that lineup means nothing until we see their logos on a poster!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 8:34:40 GMT -6
damn you. not easy to do on this phone. hang on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 8:42:19 GMT -6
that lineup means nothing until we see their logos on a poster! Here you go!
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Post by borracho on Jul 24, 2017 8:58:47 GMT -6
helmet, pig destroyer, eyehategod - get your logo shit together!
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Post by jazzpolice on Jul 24, 2017 9:00:59 GMT -6
How was NIN? Looking at the setlist, I feel like it's weaker than the arena show (aside from being three songs shorter, which is understandable). Piggy > Something I Can Never Have and Survivalism is DEF greater than The Great Destroyer which I think is a pretty meh song. Regardless, would love to hear impressions. I had a blast, but I'm a fan of The Great Destroyer. I think this is my 14th NIN show and I really enjoyed the set list being a bit atypical, particular at a fest. New songs were decent live, especially Burning Bright. SICNH was a nice treat. The production was just smoke and lights, but LOTS of smoke and lights. So it felt more like a rock show than some of his more recent outings. Probably helped the crowd around me was really into it as well. They ended about five minutes early so not sure why they didn't throw one more song in the set.
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Post by nanafish on Jul 24, 2017 9:12:15 GMT -6
only 3 from maryland death fest are trapper kept -- helmet, broken hope, eyehategod.
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Post by concertgoer on Jul 24, 2017 12:04:35 GMT -6
Solange was lovely last night. Glad I had another chance to see her since I was way too drunk for her set at Pitchfork. Whitney, The Black Madonna, Iggy Pop, TR/ST and Talaboman were all great as well yesterday. FYF is definitely my new Coachella.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 12:13:04 GMT -6
glad you guys had fun. hopefully we'll have our shit together better next time and can try again lol also psycho schedule should be complete by tomorrow. will have a clashfinder shortly after. also also was able to just email the hard rock and upgrade us from a king suite to a double queen for less than $100 so that'll be much nicer for 4 people. only a few weeks away!
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Post by irvred on Jul 24, 2017 12:15:02 GMT -6
NIN were amazing of course. Was bummed they didn't play 'Burn.' Only weak-ish song was the Bowie cover unfortunately. Trent gave a short spiel about how covering the song helped him through Bowie's death, but it just didn't fit smoothly into the rest of the set. Very little energy. They do not have any sort of stage setup at all, which was surprising. Pretty much just them rocking out. And they killed it, but I still think I preferred Lolla '13.
Solange was wonderful in every way. Streets ahead of the mid-day fest sets I saw back in 2013.
1. Bjork/Frank/Solange all tied 4. NIN 5. Angel Olsen
Did not see a single bad set, though. Closest thing to bad was Erykah Badu because she was 30 minutes late to stage. Only got to see like two songs before we moved to a spot for Frank, but those two songs sounded great.
Logistically this fest annoyed me. In theory I understand how it works and how it should help the flow of the crowd, but shit's just so far apart. I'm also still pissed about the Blonded tent. Also I was exhausted the whole weekend because I've been in LA for way too long.
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Post by zircona1 on Jul 24, 2017 20:40:09 GMT -6
also psycho schedule should be complete by tomorrow. will have a clashfinder shortly after. It already has King Diamond and Psychic TV conflicting. That would piss me off if I were going, those are two I wanted to see.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 9:28:15 GMT -6
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Post by andrewvb on Jul 25, 2017 9:58:30 GMT -6
honestly seems like less conflicts this year than i usually remember there being.
the outdoor stuff is good each day then catch a few bands at night. saturday of ilovemakonnen->solange->marie davidson and then one of kaytranda, yves tumor, or protomartyr is a pretty great night. edit: just realized i combined saturday outdoor and friday venue shows. oops. friday is a really good day still lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 10:02:47 GMT -6
yeah whores vs protomartyr is the only obvious one i see and that's not super infuriating
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 10:36:55 GMT -6
Psycho is listing the Swans set as the "final" Nevada and SoCal show of the band's career.
for whatever that's worth. (i don't think we have breakup/reunion thread yet?)
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Post by andrewvb on Jul 25, 2017 10:49:54 GMT -6
Psycho is listing the Swans set as the "final" Nevada and SoCal show of the band's career. for whatever that's worth. (i don't think we have breakup/reunion thread yet?) yeah, i think this might have made it into the old board's breakup thread, even. apparently the current tour are the last shows of this iteration of swans. i think the last ones are at warsaw in brooklyn.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 10:53:54 GMT -6
gotcha.
i knew they were calling Glowing Man their final album but wasn't sure if they had done an actual farewell tour yet or how they were labeling it.
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Post by andrewvb on Jul 25, 2017 10:55:42 GMT -6
i just checked. looks like the last warsaw show is the day before that hospital show you posted about. wild weekend if you went out there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 11:00:47 GMT -6
oh man. quite tempting honestly.
$167 flights on AA right now too.
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Post by thisismyname on Jul 25, 2017 11:32:13 GMT -6
Schedule definitely didn't work out great for me, (machinedrum vs buke & gase vs cherry glazer vs serpentwithfeet AND preoccupations vs madame gandhi vs kaytranada vs protomartyr lol damn ok) but eh that's ok, I'll see my couple must sees. I also forgot Blanck Mass was playing this fest so F YES How easy is it to bounce around venues? Also you've mentioned before there's a lot of unofficial day parties right, or did I make that up?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 12:29:51 GMT -6
Schedule definitely didn't work out great for me, (machinedrum vs buke & gase vs cherry glazer vs serpentwithfeet AND preoccupations vs madame gandhi vs kaytranada vs protomartyr lol damn ok) but eh that's ok, I'll see my couple must sees. I also forgot Blanck Mass was playing this fest so F YES How easy is it to bounce around venues? Also you've mentioned before there's a lot of unofficial day parties right, or did I make that up? Day shows at several venues run from like 12-5. Bouncing between venues tends to be fairly painless, but CAM and Deep South are just about a half mile walk from Lincoln Theater. That back and forth is going to hurt a bit. Here's a map: hopscotchmusicfest.com/info/map/
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Post by thisismyname on Jul 25, 2017 12:34:04 GMT -6
Thank ya
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 12:45:30 GMT -6
I can't recall about when day shows get listed, but the regional labels put on showcases in random places around downtown. Slim's, Pour House, Deep South, a few others will have day shows, as well. I tend to be just as busy/frantic for day shows as I do for the official lineup.
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Post by alady on Jul 26, 2017 7:15:13 GMT -6
I'm on a long bus ride atm so here's my FYF review.
Friday:
We get in around 5 to get the lay of the land. We enter near the metro station - was that the only entrance? Right away we're shunted off into our own VIP line, but then have to walk basically the length of the grounds to get in. The walking doesn't bother me but I'm cognizant of it as my friend has bad plantar fasciitis and has her feet taped up and stuff. No lines though, easy peasy.
There's only one VIP area sort of between the Main and Lawn stages. We stop in to check it out, but the trailer restrooms aren't open, only portapotties, which is kind of puzzling. They open one of the trailers later that evening but keep the others closed for some reason.
We check out the grounds... super manageable, not too big but lots of room.
I knew we were going to miss Slowdive but we luckily catch Rachel Goswell with Beach Fossils. Can't really hear her in the mix though.
We watch Angel Olsen from VIP while enjoying some buffalo cauliflower. Both are pleasant as always. We leave around 8:15 to camp for Björk.
The VIP pen at the Main is pretty sweet. We scan in and we're about six back from the rail, right on the center rail (Björk is my friend's main priority, so she's the one we camped for the longest at 30 minutes.)
The set is kind of slow, but Björk is always a treat to watch.
[One annoying thing that I'm seeing more and more at shows - people who bring stepstools. Wtf? This dude in front of us had one, but he was carrying a bunch of cameras so we thought oh, he'll get his photos and go but nope. Stayed up on that stepstool the whole show, and only took like four pictures. Weird.]
As soon as Björk takes the stage, there's a bloodcurdling scream right behind me. This tiny girl is hyperventilating and losing her damn shit. OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODILOVEHER!!!! She pushes up in front of me (of course) and continues to scream, bob and weave like a cockatoo, jump up and down trying to see/Snapchat the stage, all the while frantically waving at Björk. Normally this is behavior that would drive me insane but it is so over the top I'm totally amused. My friend, however, is getting banged into every time she jumps so she tells her to settle down. The girl immediately catches an attitude and is like "Um, it's my first concert EVER and I LOVE HER."
I'm like go get your life then girl, get up there! and I push her in front of the stepstool guy, where she eventually texts through the rest of the set. Mischief managed.
Later in the set another group of youths push in front of us, one proclaiming loudly "if anyone has a problem with it they can suck my dick." They also proceed to selfie, Snapchat and FaceTime through the set until another friend pushes up to meet them, and then they all leave with about ten minutes remaining.
It's a minor shitshow leaving the set since they are making everyone scan out of the pen. We relax in VIP for Anderson Paak and grab some drinks. The cocktails are nice, but pricey and weak. And you can't take them out of VIP, which is annoying since you can buy them elsewhere on the grounds so it's not like it's a hard liquor-specific thing. All the stages seem to sell booze, but sometimes you can't bring it in/out of even the stage area, which is super weird. However, this is reinforced very loosely all weekend (except leaving VIP, they were assholes.)
The VIP pen is packed for Missy. It's a pretty typical hip hop show with a fair bit of filler but the dancing is great, she plays all the hits and then some, there's costume changes (!) and lots of celebrity spotting. We see Bey and Queen Latifah in the wings, and Missy shouts out Tyler, Katy Perry, and Janet Jackson. Crazy. Again, a mess leaving since they're making us scan out.
We catch a bit of FlyLo on the way out to see the 3D thing. It's unimpressive.
We leave and have to walk the width of the grounds to catch an uber. Annoying.
Saturday:
We arrive in time for Thundercat and meet some of my LA friends. We all wander over to Noname (so proud to see her with such a big crowd!) and then dance at Outer Space for a bit. One of the dudes gets me a kombucha cocktail which we agree is weird. I think we just hang out for a while before going our separate ways for Tribe. Idk. I might have been high. We get a decent spot for Tribe along the center rail. They've built a long catwalk there. Tribe is fantastic, even better than Pitchfork, maybe because I can see/hear a lot better. Q-Tip comes down the catwalk late in the set and we realize that Chris Rock has been standing right next to us the entire time (between the center rail and the catwalk.) We leave a little emotional but excited about the set.
We relax in VIP for Badu. She's a half hour late so we don't miss anything. She sounds fantastic and her band is on point. Really would like to see a theater set from her sometime.
We head back to the Main for Frank Ocean. VIP pen is jammed, but we work our way in. The stage is blocked off now with a giant screen and Frank does the whole show on the catwalk. There's speakers set up on the end of the catwalk and a semicircle of musicians - very intimate. The camera work is also somehow intimate - the angles, lighting etc. seem different than your typical festival footage. The audio also seems different - almost surround sound, occasional snippets (and fog) coming from speakers behind us. The whole effect is very powerful. My friend isn't familiar with Frank at all but is really glad she saw the set and thought it was really impressive.
The Brad Pitt thing is honestly kind of surreal. He's sitting right there and just like... talking on his phone. "Is this acting?" my friend asks. We're both just tickled.
Leaving the Main is a total clusterfuck. They're no longer making us scan out, but they've erected a tall fence to shunt people away from the VIP pen and this is creating a huge bottleneck as we and the GA try to exit at the same time and people are funneling into the coliseum area through a narrow entrance right where the tall fence ends.
It's bad. We stay calm and eventually make it out and head back to VIP to catch our breath. Surprise! VIP is closed though the festival is still going on for another two hours. Cool.
We try something new and exit the way we came in, hoping it'll be a shorter walk to catch an uber. Nope, you've got to walk the whole length of the grounds again. But we don't have to also walk the width, thankfully - tonight they're letting people catch cars just outside the gates. We grab a Mission dog while waiting for our uber.
Sunday:
We spend the day at the baseball and roll up just in time to hear Little Dragon play "Ritual Union". We grab a cocktail in VIP during Iggy Pop. He's predictably great and my friend hasn't seen him before and is impressed. He's 70! Goddamn.
We get a great spot for Solange. Her set, like Frank's, feels fully realized. Conceptually the production is just wonderful on every level - musicianship, aesthetics, choreography. We're both super into it. I like it even more than the Pitchfork set. Midway through we see a couple with hoodies pulled up over their heads being hustled up the center walkway. It's Bey and Jay.
We head out and grab an uber easily outside the gates, and then go drink Taiwanese whiskey in Koreatown before a final stop at Taco Zone.
9/10 would attend again.
Ragrets:
- Not skipping Anderson Paak to camp for Missy
- Never did find the eggplant emoji
Suggestions for FYF:
- Hire a damn crowd flow expert
- VIP should at least have free water for fuck sake and it should not close early
- Make up your damn mind about carrying alcohol on the grounds
Favourite celebrity sightings:
1. Jason Mantzoukas 2. Bey and Jay 3. Chris Rock 4. Steve from Stranger Things 5. FlyLo (off the clock)
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Post by andrewvb on Jul 26, 2017 7:54:27 GMT -6
awesome write up. glad you had a good time!
that sounds like a hassle with scanning in and out of the VIP pit. at primavera, it was great, because the pit was connected via a walkway to a vip area, so as you left that vip area to go down the walkway to the pit, they scanned you out of vip there, so then when you left the pit you just left back into GA.
when i went, im pretty sure there was no entrance by the metro, just the one in the farther corner sort of past the main area and nearish the club stage. cool if there is another entrance.
yeah, the bottlenecks leaving the main area really sucked.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 8:52:15 GMT -6
Sound on Sound brought back the wrasslin from FFF and thur morning - monday evening round trip is $200 right now.
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy am i so put off by the whole "camping in texas in november" thing. want to go so bad.
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Post by Broc1123 on Jul 26, 2017 8:59:25 GMT -6
Well early November is probably the best time to camp is Texas. The weather will be like high 70s to low 80s during the day and 60s at night.
There are also plenty of cheap 2.5* hotels nearby.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 9:00:48 GMT -6
rain tho (not as bad as in april apparently)
i debated getting one of those hotels in one of the suburbs between the city and the fest so i could go back and forth but that requires driving -- and if im sober enough to drive while in austin, i think im doing austin wrong.
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Post by venom on Jul 26, 2017 9:44:03 GMT -6
[One annoying thing that I'm seeing more and more at shows - people who bring stepstools. Wtf? This dude in front of us had one, but he was carrying a bunch of cameras so we thought oh, he'll get his photos and go but nope. Stayed up on that stepstool the whole show, and only took like four pictures. Weird.] As soon as Björk takes the stage, there's a bloodcurdling scream right behind me. This tiny girl is hyperventilating and losing her damn shit. OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODILOVEHER!!!! She pushes up in front of me (of course) and continues to scream, bob and weave like a cockatoo, jump up and down trying to see/Snapchat the stage, all the while frantically waving at Björk. Normally this is behavior that would drive me insane but it is so over the top I'm totally amused. My friend, however, is getting banged into every time she jumps so she tells her to settle down. The girl immediately catches an attitude and is like "Um, it's my first concert EVER and I LOVE HER." I'm like go get your life then girl, get up there! and I push her in front of the stepstool guy, where she eventually texts through the rest of the set. Mischief managed. Later in the set another group of youths push in front of us, one proclaiming loudly "if anyone has a problem with it they can suck my dick." They also proceed to selfie, Snapchat and FaceTime through the set until another friend pushes up to meet them, and then they all leave with about ten minutes remaining. this all would have driven me crazy. i have seen the folding stools at festivals, but i always thought it was for people to sit down instead of stand on.
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