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Post by llamaoftime on May 27, 2018 9:39:09 GMT -6
Crazy Ex girlfriend is really really good.
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Post by mookie on May 29, 2018 6:26:14 GMT -6
I have some strong feelings about how the Americans is wrapping up. But I don't know how to use Spoiler tags on the mobile site. I'll just say that the tightness of the writing has loosened, which is unfortunate. Still invested and eager for next weeks episode. Just a little aggravated. I actually really love how this final season is going. I was a big fan of the first season or two of the show, but I just kind of slogged through it with the middle seasons, when everyone was raving about it but it was just going to slow for me. It's pretty great the way they are wrapping everything up, we can pretty much guess that it's going to come down to Elizabeth vs. Philip in the finale
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 7:08:53 GMT -6
I have some strong feelings about how the Americans is wrapping up. But I don't know how to use Spoiler tags on the mobile site. I'll just say that the tightness of the writing has loosened, which is unfortunate. Still invested and eager for next weeks episode. Just a little aggravated. I actually really love how this final season is going. I was a big fan of the first season or two of the show, but I just kind of slogged through it with the middle seasons, when everyone was raving about it but it was just going to slow for me. It's pretty great the way they are wrapping everything up, we can pretty much guess that it's going to come down to Elizabeth vs. Philip in the finale It's actually not the pacing I take issue with. My main issue comes from Stan's reasoning for investigating them. The first 5 seasons he never questions it more than just a minor eye brow raise, and now after what.. almost a decade of living next these people he just now decides that their Russian spies.
We all knew he was gonna discover them, but there was no "ah-ha" moment like in Breaking Bad when Hank finds Leaves of Grass. It just doesn't feel organic at all, too forced.
Other than that, I'm loving the show still. And sadly, I think Philip is losing that battle. He has to.
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Post by zircona1 on May 29, 2018 7:19:05 GMT -6
Crazy Ex girlfriend is really really good. My gf loves that show.
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Post by mookie on May 29, 2018 10:15:30 GMT -6
Wanda Sykes just announced she is leaving the Roseanne show, due to Barr's latest batshit racist tweet
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Post by venom on May 29, 2018 10:51:22 GMT -6
Wanda Sykes just announced she is leaving the Roseanne show, due to Barr's latest batshit racist tweet it's interesting to see and know the point where some people draw the line these days.
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Post by mookie on May 29, 2018 12:04:28 GMT -6
Wanda Sykes just announced she is leaving the Roseanne show, due to Barr's latest batshit racist tweet And ABC finally came to their senses and just cancelled the show.
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Post by rango420 on May 29, 2018 12:09:05 GMT -6
I wonder if Laurie Metcalf or John Goodman told ABC they were going to opt out of their contract and ABC cancelled to save face and try to make some good PR
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Post by concertgoer on May 29, 2018 12:51:39 GMT -6
I feel pretty disgusted with myself for watching the reboot this year.
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Post by nanatod on May 29, 2018 14:07:39 GMT -6
she and tom arnold emceed part of two farm aid shows -- indianapolis and ames, so she and tom are in the trapper keeper, twice. oy vey.
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Post by ultravisitor on May 29, 2018 17:18:10 GMT -6
I have the same reservations as @tima regarding The Americans. That's really the only thing that is bothering me about the way the series is wrapping up.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 7:25:25 GMT -6
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Post by alady on May 30, 2018 7:41:59 GMT -6
Also apparently she's had a head injury so it's all fine.
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Post by teekoh on May 30, 2018 8:24:55 GMT -6
I've had at least two concussions and an actual truck hit me in the head and I don't think I've ever tweeted anything racist.
Can't speak to Ambien.
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Post by venom on May 30, 2018 22:53:31 GMT -6
i can't decide which scene of The Americans affected me more- stan confronting them in the garage, goodbye phone call to henry, or elizabeth seeing paige get off the train. probably the last one. keri russell played that perfectly.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 7:43:15 GMT -6
Good to have Kimmy Schmidt back. I didn't realize before last night that they're splitting the season into two 6 episode parts.
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Post by groovy2 on May 31, 2018 11:35:45 GMT -6
i can't decide which scene of The Americans affected me more- stan confronting them in the garage, goodbye phone call to henry, or elizabeth seeing paige get off the train. probably the last one. keri russell played that perfectly. Definitely the last one for me as well but the first moment you mentioned was my favorite. Great way to wrap up that character. Excellent finale.
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Post by irvred on May 31, 2018 13:24:02 GMT -6
Last night I watched 6 of the 8 new Arrested Developments and they are all very bad. I even like the original S4 edit but this season is both unfocused and unfunny.
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Post by rango420 on May 31, 2018 13:27:43 GMT -6
Last night I watched 6 of the 8 new Arrested Developments and they are all very bad. I even like the original S4 edit but this season is both unfocused and unfunny. I disagree. The first two episodes are a mess (like an hour straight of just Ron Howard narraration) but the four after all all pretty good with some great moments and more consistent in tone than the 4th season. I'm also only on episode 6. Not sure why they decided to center the season around Lindsay Bluth when Portia was clearly on set for 10 minutes. Didn't think the bag on head thing was as funny as DJ Ski Mask
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Post by irvred on May 31, 2018 13:42:37 GMT -6
The choices for Lindsay are extremely baffling. They ditch so many of the threads established at the end of S4 I'm not sure why they doubled down on Lindsay running for office - Herbert Love and Sally Sitwell are kind of just tossed away anyway - if Portia was unavailable (or possibly uninterested).
It isn't like unwatchable... If I'm being honest I still enjoy Michael, George Michael, and GOB just rambling/mumbling whatevers to unenthused peripheral characters. I'll laugh but I can't tell you a single new bit or gag that stood out to me. S4 got flak for splitting the cast up and I think this season does the same thing but in an even less interesting way.
They also have a Transparent joke in ep1 and I'm baffled no one forced them to cut it.
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Post by rango420 on May 31, 2018 13:49:17 GMT -6
i think they very purposely cut those story lines because everyones season 4 complaints was they spent too much time with those new characters
I imagine Terry Crews will come back at some point and i get they wanted to compare the bluths to the trumps but I think it could've worked better if it was Lucielle or really just anyone who was on set for more than a weekend lol
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Post by irvred on May 31, 2018 13:59:28 GMT -6
I get that complaint but I don't think they really provide a solution; instead of a Bluth interacting with multiple rando supporting characters you get a Bluth interacting with one other Bluth at a time.
Re: the Trump thing - it was bound to happen but they do it so clumsily. Three of Portia's seven minutes of screentime are her recreating pre-election controversies and it is just lazy. I agree though if they'd at least made it Lucille instead of Lindsay they could've done more.
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Post by rango420 on May 31, 2018 14:02:23 GMT -6
Agreed, theres a happy medium that I think is probably impossible to accomplish given the time restraints of making this thing happen on everyone's schedules.
Lucille for mayor or house would've been so good god what a missed opportunity
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Post by doso on May 31, 2018 21:54:56 GMT -6
The Americans finale was outstanding. While the phone call with Henry was very emotional, I also kind of love/find it hilarious that they left Henry behind. I half expected it when things began to unravel in the previous episode and it's completely fitting since he's been the forgotten family member since I can remember.
Ever since they introduced Stan's wife I've been wondering if she was also an American. I guess I wasn't alone and/or the writers intentionally meant to introduce that question last season (or whenever she first joined the cast).
How do you all think they were able to return to the USSR after Elizabeth betrayed the KGB? Mrs. Doso thought that Granny wouldn't have reported the betrayal back to The Center because it would have represented a colossal failure on her (Granny's) part.
I'd also like to hear thoughts about Paige's motivation to get off the train and stay behind. Obviously Stan now knows she was involved to some degree but he's motivated to keep quiet for Henry's sake and perhaps because he still believes that Paige is fundamentally innocent. So Paige can probably escape prosecution? Does she just choose to stay behind because she feels like she needs to be there for Henry? Because she's rejecting her parents values/life choices? Because despite her cultivated interest in Russian culture, she can't imagine leaving the U.S. and never returning?
Mrs. Doso also pointed out that Phillip can now resume banging Martha. XD
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Post by ultravisitor on May 31, 2018 22:08:44 GMT -6
I think they were able to return to the USSR because their message got through successfully, as Gorby wasn't overthrown.
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Post by raylan on May 31, 2018 22:08:55 GMT -6
The Americans Finale was GREAT.
I expected nothing less.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 7:24:11 GMT -6
I liked the American's finale, but could have used a bit more finality to certain characters. But the emotional moments already mentioned were powerful, especially that last one. I knew it was coming, but it still had the desired emotional punch. Overall, I loved the series.
4 episodes into Season 5 of Arrested Development and I haven't done anything more than a snicker. But with each episode it gets better. The Lindsay scenes are painful to watch though. I think it was Jeffrey Tambor who stated that he thought this was their "best season yet," which is actually the funniest thing about the season so far. The scenes between George Michael and Michael are cringeworthy, as are the Mexico "getting laid" scenes with GOB and George Sr. It seems to me that they've paid little attention to the last 2 years. Trying to commentate on the Trumps, while still ignoring the sexism our President encourages, shows that they are way out of touch with society. I'll continue watching, as a fan of the original 3 seasons. So far though, it's not looking so good, but shows improvement with each episode.
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Post by venom on Jun 1, 2018 22:14:58 GMT -6
The Americans finale was outstanding. Ever since they introduced Stan's wife I've been wondering if she was also an American. I guess I wasn't alone and/or the writers intentionally meant to introduce that question last season (or whenever she first joined the cast).
How do you all think they were able to return to the USSR after Elizabeth betrayed the KGB? Mrs. Doso thought that Granny wouldn't have reported the betrayal back to The Center because it would have represented a colossal failure on her (Granny's) part.
I'd also like to hear thoughts about Paige's motivation to get off the train and stay behind. Obviously Stan now knows she was involved to some degree but he's motivated to keep quiet for Henry's sake and perhaps because he still believes that Paige is fundamentally innocent. So Paige can probably escape prosecution? Does she just choose to stay behind because she feels like she needs to be there for Henry? Because she's rejecting her parents values/life choices? Because despite her cultivated interest in Russian culture, she can't imagine leaving the U.S. and never returning?
Mrs. Doso also pointed out that Phillip can now resume banging Martha. XD there's an interview with the showrunners in which they say laurie holden asked them 600,000 times whether she was kgb or not and they never answered her. on the other hand, there's a quote from holden in one of the many finale articles in which she says they told her on her first day how to play the character. so, who knows.
i am not sure philip and elizabeth are getting a welcome home party. arkady picked them up and he's the one person we know was not for a coup. otherwise, it presumes stan got the message through.
i think paige stayed for henry. but also at the end of the last episode she had that fight with elizabeth, so it's not like they were on great terms.
also just a little disappointed we didn't catch up with martha in season 6.
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Post by rango420 on Jun 3, 2018 2:42:01 GMT -6
*Americans Spoilers Ahead*
The final Martha scene was so good it was the Coach and Saracen in the showers scene as Season 5 of this show was the season 2 of Friday Night Lights glad they didn't try to return to it.
The writing was pretty bad all season and the plot was all over the place and there were Suicide Squad level song montages and I really think Keri Russell's performance got markedly worse as the show went on but they knocked the final couple episodes completely out of the park and am very confused how people disagree. The parking lot and Henry scene were incredibly impressive for how poorly emotional scenes like that had been handled the past couple seasons. Also it's impressive what a good actress Paige became once they got a grip of her character.
I love how the tension at the end came down completely whether their disguises were good or not. Felt like a perfect little pay off for the whole show.
"With or Without You" was a terrible final song cue tho.
I think that Stan would have to rat on Paige for her to be implicated in the actions of her parents. The only people she had been in contact with as an agent are either dead, would play dumb or presumably also escaped. I was a little confused why they never had a discussion about that but understood after the emotional payoff.
I dono, I think this show fell off alot as it went on but they really knocked it out of the park with the finale even if they had to do things like make Stan suddenly become a super genius to figure everything out.
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Post by rango420 on Jun 3, 2018 2:46:25 GMT -6
I also watched Evil Genius while I try to pass this kidney stone or whatever and I get why they showed the video of the guy blowing up (these true crime things really tend to not give a shit about the victims which is why showing that stuff is important and all) but for a video streaming site that doesn't really have a rating system its kind of fucked up to not get a warning
The documentary was kinda a mess but what a fucking story jeez louise.
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