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Post by neader on Aug 2, 2018 4:28:50 GMT -6
Absolutely puzzled what your 180 is? He's a piece of shit and he is a piece of shit. Also Pale Horse how dare you Greg the Egg is perfect. This show is so great, its got the energy and dialogue of The Thick of It with the stakes of dumb HBO programming, although they are narratively cheating so much with the fathers recovery. Originally saw him as entitled and spoiled and though part of that is still true I am no longer actively rooting against him.
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Post by sthubbins on Aug 2, 2018 8:01:01 GMT -6
greg is choppin it up
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Post by sthubbins on Aug 2, 2018 8:03:34 GMT -6
also I see why some people get seduced into sympathizing with Kendall because he's gotten fucked over the hardest but all his motivations have been just as self serving and greedy as everyone else's
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Post by rango420 on Aug 2, 2018 8:05:55 GMT -6
I love how Greg is constantly blasting cigs now that he is a millionaire badass
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Post by rango420 on Aug 2, 2018 8:07:07 GMT -6
also I see why some people get seduced into sympathizing with Kendall because he's gotten fucked over the hardest but all his motivations have been just as self serving and greedy as everyone else's I honestly can't see how anyone would read him as sympathetic and I don't even think its like a Walter White thing where they even try to find sympathetic traits or whatever.
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Post by Pale Hose on Aug 2, 2018 8:07:51 GMT -6
Greg is slightly less awful than the rest, though I imagine if he got some real money that would change.
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Post by rango420 on Aug 2, 2018 8:09:01 GMT -6
That's obviously the arc of this show. Greg is going to become the American Psycho guy.
I think the only other character who is moderately sympathetic is Tom but boy is it a small percentage.
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Post by sthubbins on Aug 2, 2018 8:09:25 GMT -6
re: kendall
it's not from any actual character analysis, it's about his type of arc usually being associated with a sympathetic character so muscle memory kicks in
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Post by Pale Hose on Aug 2, 2018 8:12:13 GMT -6
Tom sucks...or should I say Tom swallows?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 22:11:24 GMT -6
Chris Rock has been cast as the lead in the new season of Fargo.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 10:02:55 GMT -6
Love that show. It's been consistently great.
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Aug 5, 2018 9:22:41 GMT -6
Been catching up on Succession and didn't realize the finale was tonight! Will definitely be caught up for that. #TeamGreg
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Post by neader on Aug 5, 2018 21:09:35 GMT -6
Succession. Damn.
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Post by Pale Hose on Aug 6, 2018 11:50:26 GMT -6
Holy shit that Succession finale.
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Post by sthubbins on Aug 6, 2018 12:16:43 GMT -6
You little Machiavellian fuck, I see you. I like it.
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Post by rango420 on Aug 6, 2018 13:56:21 GMT -6
Not sure I loved the last 20 minutes of the finale. I feel like it was a bit too obvious and on the nose way to reset the power dynamics that while not implausible, wasn't really earned.
I did love every Connor Roy scene and the comically large explosion.
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Post by munkivelli on Aug 6, 2018 13:58:04 GMT -6
Is this Succession show worth a binge? I need a new show right now.
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Post by rango420 on Aug 6, 2018 14:01:42 GMT -6
nah everyones been talking about it for 10 pages as a goof
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Post by munkivelli on Aug 6, 2018 14:03:42 GMT -6
nah everyones been talking about it for 10 pages as a goof touché
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Post by sthubbins on Aug 6, 2018 14:04:41 GMT -6
Not sure I loved the last 20 minutes of the finale. I feel like it was a bit too obvious and on the nose way to reset the power dynamics that while not implausible, wasn't really earned. I did love every Connor Roy scene and the comically large explosion. Plotwise it was an easy way out, but the Kendall/Logan dynamic was remarkable. There was so much good stuff in the ep that I was forgiving.
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Post by rango420 on Aug 6, 2018 14:24:20 GMT -6
Not sure I loved the last 20 minutes of the finale. I feel like it was a bit too obvious and on the nose way to reset the power dynamics that while not implausible, wasn't really earned. I did love every Connor Roy scene and the comically large explosion. Plotwise it was an easy way out, but the Kendall/Logan dynamic was remarkable. There was so much good stuff in the ep that I was forgiving. I feel like the show has a tendency to take the easiest way out which is too bad but again, not inconceivable. Feel like the show was setting up more nuanced and powerful ways to illustrate this dynamic and than cheated.
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Post by rango420 on Aug 6, 2018 14:51:15 GMT -6
I've been watching Dark Tourist on and off and I don't really like the guy just because i don't find him that charming or interesting but I think its kind of goofy all of the criticism of him being culturally insensitive while talking to like mass murderers and scam artists.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 17:22:19 GMT -6
Anyone watched The Rain on Netflix yet? It's equal parts disturbing, engaging and kind of addictive. If you do opt to watch it, please go the subtitle route and not the english dub.
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Aug 7, 2018 7:24:16 GMT -6
Plotwise it was an easy way out, but the Kendall/Logan dynamic was remarkable. There was so much good stuff in the ep that I was forgiving. I feel like the show has a tendency to take the easiest way out which is too bad but again, not inconceivable. Feel like the show was setting up more nuanced and powerful ways to illustrate this dynamic and than cheated. Finally sat down and watched this all the way through. Amazing episode, but this is the opinion I agree most with. One thing I noticed that clicked with me later as I thought about how they'll continue the storyline re: Tom - On their wedding night when Shiv is coming clean to Tom, doesn't Tom eventually look at her and say "Shiv, let's just fuck!"...at first I thought this was just pent-up emotion, but maybe he wanted to consummate the marriage due to the pre-nup. He might have been worried that Shiv would call it off in that conversation, and if their marriage hadn't been consummated, it could be annulled. Or maybe that was the obvious implication?
Obviously I don't know what the terms of the pre nup were but Tom might have been trying to solidify his position for a S2 takeover with Greg Egg.
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Post by sthubbins on Aug 7, 2018 8:38:27 GMT -6
What I saw: Shiv is describing a version of their marriage that she might find acceptable, and Tom is so relieved that this isn't necessarily over that he seizes upon it even though what she's describing is clearly not what he wants. While his feelings for Shiv are totally wrapped up in his greed/ambition, I didn't see the sex there as a calculated move. I imagine the pre-nup probably ended up remaining "unconscionable" anyway - and anyway it's better for him to embrace what Shiv wants if it means continuing the marriage than to prevent an annulment.
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Aug 7, 2018 8:58:03 GMT -6
What I saw: Shiv is describing a version of their marriage that she might find acceptable, and Tom is so relieved that this isn't necessarily over that he seizes upon it even though what she's describing is clearly not what he wants. While his feelings for Shiv are totally wrapped up in his greed/ambition, I didn't see the sex there as a calculated move. I imagine the pre-nup probably ended up remaining "unconscionable" anyway - and anyway it's better for him to embrace what Shiv wants if it means continuing the marriage than to prevent an annulment. Yeah, his entire character makes it seem like this is the case, the more I think about it. The small chance that he could be using this as a pivoting point to power was exciting to think about, though.
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Post by rango420 on Aug 7, 2018 10:39:06 GMT -6
I'm watching the On Cinema universe for the first time all the way thru and the four and a half hour trial is one of the most amazing pieces of comedy ive ever seen.
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Post by goodson on Aug 7, 2018 10:39:46 GMT -6
I'm watching the On Cinema universe for the first time all the way thru and the four and a half hour trial is one of the most amazing pieces of comedy ive ever seen. yessssssss
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Post by rango420 on Aug 7, 2018 11:02:34 GMT -6
I'm watching the On Cinema universe for the first time all the way thru and the four and a half hour trial is one of the most amazing pieces of comedy ive ever seen. yessssssss the lawyers and judge are so good that any time they break its magical.
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Post by sthubbins on Aug 9, 2018 16:53:53 GMT -6
Better Call Saul premiere was pretty much a snooze. I don't know how much patience I'm going to have for the Mike/Nacho stuff
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