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Post by goodson on Mar 7, 2018 19:49:38 GMT -6
I've been meaning to read that but for real they argue The Strokes need MORE success?? I keep forgetting we have this thread. I've been reading Pynchon to the point where I think I'm a less-tolerable and all-around worse person for it. Finished Gravity's Rainbow at the start of the year and then plowed through The Crying of Lot 49 and Inherent Vice. Now I'm 150 pages into V and it may be my least favorite so far. ya i don't really love v i went inherent vice -> lot 49 -> mason and dixon -> against the day and now i feel like i'm gonna do gravity's rainbow now |
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Post by facts on Mar 7, 2018 19:55:23 GMT -6
Hot take: the Strokes suck In a Patti Smith rut, recently finished M Train and just started Devotion The book does prominently feature Patti's son Jack White |
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Post by irvred on Mar 7, 2018 19:56:45 GMT -6
Gravity's Rainbow is amazing and I feel pretentious calling it a new favorite of mine because I only understood maybe 60% of it. It is very dense and long but really has a way of intoxicating you; V, on the other hand feels sprawling in the way a lot of American post-modern lit is, but it isn't incredibly engaging
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Post by facts on Mar 7, 2018 20:01:06 GMT -6
I mean are they arguing that the Strokes are somehow not terribly derivative and unoriginal themselves? it was more that the strokes were kind of a shot in the arm of a dead nyc rock scene, and then a bunch of other bands started doing the same thing because of the strokes. it's more regional, not that the strokes invented that kind of music but they revitalized it, made it fit their strengths, and made it popular again in their lower manhattan scene. I think what also gets lost over time is how dead not just the NYC scene was, but guitar rock in general. There was a whole lot of Creed, Korn and Linkin Park back then and even the rock bands that were around were dabbling heavy into electronica. |
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Post by alady on Mar 7, 2018 20:44:16 GMT -6
Hot take: the Strokes suck In a Patti Smith rut, recently finished M Train and just started Devotion The book does prominently feature Patti's son Jack White I don't even know what to do with this |
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Post by unlikelyjapan on Mar 7, 2018 20:49:20 GMT -6
it was more that the strokes were kind of a shot in the arm of a dead nyc rock scene, and then a bunch of other bands started doing the same thing because of the strokes. it's more regional, not that the strokes invented that kind of music but they revitalized it, made it fit their strengths, and made it popular again in their lower manhattan scene. I think what also gets lost over time is how dead not just the NYC scene was, but guitar rock in general. There was a whole lot of Creed, Korn and Linkin Park back then and even the rock bands that were around were dabbling heavy into electronica. That narrative makes sense if you ignore all the music coming out of the NW during that time |
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Post by facts on Mar 7, 2018 22:40:14 GMT -6
The book does prominently feature Patti's son Jack White I don't even know what to do with this This was one of D'Arcy's gems during the text exchanges with Billy. She thought that Peter Hook's son was Patti Smith's son Jack White. And who hasn't made that mistake before, really. |
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Post by alady on Mar 7, 2018 23:29:40 GMT -6
Patti Smith's son Jackson was married to Meg White though, so pretty close, really.
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Post by neader on Mar 8, 2018 5:42:46 GMT -6
I think what also gets lost over time is how dead not just the NYC scene was, but guitar rock in general. There was a whole lot of Creed, Korn and Linkin Park back then and even the rock bands that were around were dabbling heavy into electronica. That narrative makes sense if you ignore all the music coming out of the NW during that time Which music was that? And yeah the Strokes should be like Nirvana big, like I know I wouldn't be on this board if it wasn't for bands that were able to succeed because of the road The Strokes paved for them. If that's not a measure of success then what is? |
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Post by facts on Mar 8, 2018 7:12:13 GMT -6
There were interesting bands from the NW that were around in the late 90s, but if we are talking about Modest Mouse, DCFC, or even Sleater-Kinney it's a different magnitude of impact.
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Post by unlikelyjapan on Mar 8, 2018 8:24:07 GMT -6
Yeah, the Riot grrrl movement is part of it. You wouldn't have DCFC if it weren't for Built to Spill and Elliott Smith. That scene was going strong for years despite all the trash that was on the radio
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Post by unlikelyjapan on Mar 8, 2018 8:27:08 GMT -6
That narrative makes sense if you ignore all the music coming out of the NW during that time Which music was that? And yeah the Strokes should be like Nirvana big, like I know I wouldn't be on this board if it wasn't for bands that were able to succeed because of the road The Strokes paved for them. If that's not a measure of success then what is? There are probably an infinite number of ways to measure success if we're going to include influencing you to join a message board as one of them |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 8:28:34 GMT -6
WHY AREN'T X JAPAN AND FUCK BUTTONS AS BIG AS KATY PERRY YET
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Post by sthubbins on Mar 16, 2018 15:57:50 GMT -6
just started Sing, Unburied Sing by Jesmyn Ward
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Post by alady on Mar 16, 2018 16:02:41 GMT -6
I bought that but I've heard it's very depressing and now is not really the time
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Post by goodson on Mar 16, 2018 16:05:16 GMT -6
has anybody here read the new george saunders
i guess not new bc it came out last year but whatever
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Post by sthubbins on Mar 18, 2018 16:42:03 GMT -6
yeah it's great
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 21:23:28 GMT -6
same.
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Post by irvred on Mar 20, 2018 7:03:38 GMT -6
Just cross-posting in here to remind everyone Dave Eggers sucks.
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Post by nanatod on Mar 20, 2018 10:08:37 GMT -6
I don't know what the heck this is, and I don't care, but the better half bought a copy of it the other day, and it is on it's way to us. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 13:16:14 GMT -6
John Oliver and the staff of Last Week Tonight—specifically, writer Jill Twiss—whose picture book, the somewhat cumbersomely titled Last Week Tonight with John Oliver Presents A Day in the Life of Marlon Bundo, is, as of this writing, the No. 1 best-selling book on Amazon. It’s a sweet victory, made even sweeter by the book that’s currently down at fourth place: Marlon Bundo’s A Day in the Life of the Vice President, a picture book written by Mike Pence’s 24-year-old daughter, Charlotte, and illustrated by his wife, Second Lady Karen Pence.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 13:18:49 GMT -6
If I don't receive about 5-6 copies of that book in the mail I'm going to seriously start to question my friendships with some people.
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Post by dij22 on Apr 18, 2018 17:44:02 GMT -6
I lol'd
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Post by sthubbins on Apr 18, 2018 19:07:08 GMT -6
diving back into the Ferrante's Neapolitan Novels after taking a break after book 2.
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Post by thebosma on Apr 18, 2018 20:07:04 GMT -6
 I've been reading this on and off and it has genuinely changed the way how I cook. The reason I love watching people like Alton Brown is that he doesn't just say how to cook something, he talks about why the food is cooking the way that it is. It's what makes reading his books interesting, as well as people like Nigella Lawson. This book is in a whole other league. The first third of the book is covering basics on how to appropriately season cookware, how and when to get the right flavors out of things, and what to do if you aren't extracting the flavor you want. It also has some really helpful charts and diagrams about how to braise meats, what to make if you're looking for something light and fresh, heavier, etc. The next segment of it is recipes for really good basic staples like making salad dressings, seasonings for meats, and things of that nature. The last third is just really great recipes. It reads really well and feels like I'm reading a story rather than a cookbook. Can't recommend this enough if you even kind of like cooking. |
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Post by sthubbins on Apr 27, 2018 13:43:02 GMT -6
diving back into the Ferrante's Neapolitan Novels after taking a break after book 2. "those who leave and those who stay" was great, maybe my favorite so far. moving right on to book 4 |
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Post by goodson on Apr 27, 2018 14:12:22 GMT -6
i'm on book 2 and loving it
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 14:18:38 GMT -6
Hey so this is finally on it's way. I guess I did not get my order in before the huge rush. I'll let you guys know #babbyscoots' review at some point next week. |
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Post by teekoh on May 4, 2018 9:04:48 GMT -6
We went and saw Samantha Irby do a reading and Q&A at Wilson Abbey last night. She's hysterical, and thankfully the the Q&A wasn't the worst. I usually can't stand them.
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