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Post by andrewvb on Jun 9, 2020 14:55:43 GMT -6
I watched it last night & today. Still ambivalent on whether she's actually good at movies or if she just gets by on making factually correct movies with good politics. I liked it just fine but a lot of the info is old news to me. I think all the credulous boomers who believe MLK solved racism need to give it a watch, however. definitely a good time to have this conversation lol
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Post by krentist on Jun 9, 2020 15:28:12 GMT -6
I think the social value of her movies is unimpeachable. I should have left it at that.
I will say I read an insane review on Vulture that brings up 1) her treatment of LBJ in Selma being unfair 2) the fact that the reviewer has been mugged before so the way 13th talks about crime in the 80s is bullshit and 3) crack really is worse. I would have guessed that is a Rex Reed or Armond White review but was surprised to see it from David Edelstein. I think the movie attributes the spike in crime in cities to boomers there coming of age so I am really amazed that he thinks the movie is saying crime didn't exist.
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Post by thebosma on Jun 9, 2020 15:44:00 GMT -6
My rating scale is based solely on how fair a film is to LBJ
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Post by krentist on Jun 9, 2020 15:48:54 GMT -6
It is ahistorical for the movie not to talk at length about LBJs giant dong
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Post by krentist on Jun 9, 2020 19:37:46 GMT -6
it has been eons since I have seen Silence of the Lambs but it's every bit as good as I remember. One thing though -- is it just me or do Hopkins' Lecter and Moira Rose have identical speaking cadences?
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Post by krentist on Jun 9, 2020 21:10:08 GMT -6
Apparently HBO Max already took down Gone With the Wind due it being racist.
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Post by dij22 on Jun 9, 2020 21:29:41 GMT -6
Yet they keep White Girls smh
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Post by Pale Hose on Jun 9, 2020 21:53:33 GMT -6
Shutter Island was more enjoyable on the second watch a decade later. I'm not sure if my expectations were too high back then, or maybe I'm watching with a different perspective than I had back then. Either way it's a good flick, would recommend.
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Post by teekoh on Jun 9, 2020 22:00:35 GMT -6
Apparently HBO Max already took down Gone With the Wind due it being racist. I’ll take any reason they got for that movie to disappear.
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Post by Tweet on Jun 9, 2020 22:06:10 GMT -6
My rating scale is based solely on how fair a film is to LBJ LBJ is one of my “favorite characters” of American history and I remember him having a cool dog and a massive dong
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Post by venom on Jun 10, 2020 7:23:26 GMT -6
over the last couple nights we've watched two movies about pushing back against cultural norms.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 8:35:08 GMT -6
rewatched all of Nolan's Batman movies yesterday for the first time in a long time. all 3 are pretty great from start to end.
Batman Begins might still be my favorite but there's some admittedly pretty cringy exposition dump dialog clumsily thrown in. Cillian Murphy is just my favorite person tho.
TDK is obviously still terrific. my hot take has been and always will be that Eckhart got robbed. dude outshines everyone else (even Ledger, who is still great.) i still hate the sound mixing in this movie -- Zimmer's score and the background noise drowns out voices and dialog during key moments and it drives me insane.
TDKR is better than i remember. well, kinda. Bane's voice hasn't aged well for me. the ADR frequently doesn't seem to match Hardy's head and neck movement and his tone really is comical at times and not in a good way. Hatheway is queen material in this tho. whole story is probably the most interesting one that the Nolans ever came up with, but trying to cram it into 2 1/2 hours makes the editing kinda schizophrenic (the previous complaints about time jumps are definitely silly tho. it's pretty explicitly addressed in the film.) it's probably the most visually stunning one as well.
tl;dr rewatching these only make the DCU stuff look even more childish and bad
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Post by sthubbins on Jun 10, 2020 9:38:06 GMT -6
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Post by sthubbins on Jun 10, 2020 9:39:46 GMT -6
Woman at War - not great
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Post by brainloading on Jun 10, 2020 11:59:57 GMT -6
rewatched all of Nolan's Batman movies yesterday for the first time in a long time. all 3 are pretty great from start to end. I rewatched The Dark Knight last week and it was really good still but also had some of the dumbest things imaginable. Any character that has exactly between 1-10 lines is constantly saying nonsense.
And Maggie G is worse than Katie Holmes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 12:05:11 GMT -6
rewatched all of Nolan's Batman movies yesterday for the first time in a long time. all 3 are pretty great from start to end. I rewatched The Dark Knight last week and it was really good still but also had some of the dumbest things imaginable. Any character that has exactly between 1-10 lines is constantly saying nonsense.
And Maggie G is worse than Katie Holmes.
oh god i audibly laughed at some of the "explain it like im 5" moments. (introducing Bane, explaining the Clean Slate program, whatever the weird backstory is with the clean fusion program...) and yeah i was never a fan of the Rachel character in either capacity. thought both Cotillard and Hatheway were more believable. although the unnecessary love triangle aspect in TDKR certainly hasnt aged well.
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Post by thebosma on Jun 10, 2020 12:30:45 GMT -6
The Dark Knight has the best delivered line ever which is “NO MORE DEAD CAWPS.” And then all the cops go “YEAH! YEAH!” Like a villains sidekick in a Disney movie. Daddy Nolan is truly the master of all arts
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Jun 10, 2020 12:37:22 GMT -6
I watched The 39 Steps this morning and thought it was great.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2020 12:39:18 GMT -6
The Dark Knight has the best delivered line ever which is “NO MORE DEAD CAWPS.” And then all the cops go “YEAH! YEAH!” Like a villains sidekick in a Disney movie. Daddy Nolan is truly the master of all arts lol trying to watch all 3 of these (which are very "look there's a lot of bad cops out there that need to be fired, but there are lots of good cops out there too!") during this particular time in history was very confounding for sure. kinda one of the best aspects of 3 is having Joseph Gordon Levitt just flat out call out Commissioner Gordon for hiding the truth and being no better than a lot of the dirty cops. but since the final confrontation is basically cops vs militant fascists, it's kinda hard to root for anyone besides Selina lol
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Post by irvred on Jun 10, 2020 12:44:30 GMT -6
Marion Cotillard is so bad in TDKR it is wild. Ben Mendelssohn, too, although he really was given a pointless, thankless role. Marion Cotillard does a straight up high school drama club death scene.
I haven’t watched the Nolans in a while but we watched the first Burton Batman a couple months ago and I was kind of surprised how much I disliked it. It, like, isn’t hammy enough to be hammy or dark enough to be dark. Maybe being basically raised on TDK trilogy corrupted me.
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Post by thebosma on Jun 10, 2020 12:44:46 GMT -6
I watched The 39 Steps this morning and thought it was great. Is Batman in that one?
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Post by wanny on Jun 10, 2020 12:52:28 GMT -6
Apparently HBO Max already took down Gone With the Wind due it being racist. They are bringing it back with a disclaimer at the beginning. Seems like a good solution, I think deleting the film is a dumb move.
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Post by thebosma on Jun 10, 2020 12:52:54 GMT -6
Apparently HBO Max already took down Gone With the Wind due it being racist. They are bringing it back with a disclaimer at the beginning. Seems like a good solution, I think deleting the film is a dumb move. I think enduring the film itself is even dumber tbh
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Post by teekoh on Jun 10, 2020 12:52:54 GMT -6
Love 39 Steps.
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Post by andrewvb on Jun 10, 2020 12:55:27 GMT -6
wretched watch all 39 of the steps movies next
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Post by wanny on Jun 10, 2020 13:02:58 GMT -6
They are bringing it back with a disclaimer at the beginning. Seems like a good solution, I think deleting the film is a dumb move. I think enduring the film itself is even dumber tbh Four hours with Gone With Wind isn't your ideal Saturday?
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Post by nanatod on Jun 10, 2020 14:29:07 GMT -6
LBJ ratchets up the vietnam war right after he inadvertently invents the idea of dockers, comfortable dress pants.
potential double feature: gone with the wind, immediately followed by django unchained, for a dissenting perspective.
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Post by krentist on Jun 10, 2020 14:44:36 GMT -6
They are bringing it back with a disclaimer at the beginning. Seems like a good solution, I think deleting the film is a dumb move. I think enduring the film itself is even dumber tbh I personally think it's a brain genius move to not consider that one of the most seen and discussed films ever may be racist until a mere three weeks after featuring it as a launch title on your streaming service Just one man's opinion tho
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Post by jazzpolice on Jun 10, 2020 14:52:44 GMT -6
Killer movie (pun intended). For a 2.5+ hr courtroom drama it moves at a remarkably brisk pace. I can only imagine how bold or provocative some of the subject matter seemed when it first came out.
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Post by alady on Jun 10, 2020 15:03:36 GMT -6
I love GWTW 🤷♀️
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