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Post by rango420 on Feb 8, 2018 12:11:41 GMT -6
oh great top of page
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Post by llamaoftime on Feb 8, 2018 12:13:52 GMT -6
i cant handle all these woj bombs
cleveland just going to be a completely different team after today
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Post by goodson on Feb 8, 2018 12:14:14 GMT -6
good trade for cavs but they still are not very good
boston and even toronto have much, much stronger lineups
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Post by llamaoftime on Feb 8, 2018 12:16:05 GMT -6
im still trying to figure this out Hood had his contract up after this year, maybe Utah knew they didn't want to pay him, but Rose isn't any sort of long term piece so all you really get out of it is just Jae Crowder? Unless they are getting a pick or something
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Post by teekoh on Feb 8, 2018 12:18:51 GMT -6
It seems to me like everybody's taking on expiring contracts (I assume this is the case with Crowder) to position themselves for free agency. It's bananas.
I saw somewhere earlier in the week that Hood wasn't likely to stay in Utah, so that would explain that move a little. But Utah seem pretty gutted and hardly look like a destination.
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Post by andrewvb on Feb 8, 2018 12:56:18 GMT -6
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Post by llamaoftime on Feb 8, 2018 13:10:19 GMT -6
hope the next 50 minutes are exciting
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Post by llamaoftime on Feb 8, 2018 13:11:04 GMT -6
Knicks should cut Noah and let him sign with the Timberwolves and while we are at it work out a trade for Luol Deng from the Lakers
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 13:21:06 GMT -6
Yes, but he really wanted dat George Hill. Cleveland gone bonkers today! IRT to someone on the last page
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Post by teekoh on Feb 8, 2018 13:26:11 GMT -6
Bulls got Noah
Vonleh
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Post by unlikelyjapan on Feb 8, 2018 13:28:49 GMT -6
I like it!
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Post by dij22 on Feb 8, 2018 13:34:40 GMT -6
Thibs is kind of a shitty coach now. wat
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Post by unlikelyjapan on Feb 8, 2018 13:35:41 GMT -6
Tickets for tomorrow's game against the Timberwolves have dropped about $20 since yesterday. Thank you potential blizzard!
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Post by dij22 on Feb 8, 2018 13:37:51 GMT -6
Tickets for tomorrow's game against the Timberwolves have dropped about $20 since yesterday. Thank you potential blizzard! I'm monitoring that as well. I hope to get courtsides and a hot dog for $15
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Post by Tweet on Feb 8, 2018 13:47:49 GMT -6
Man the Cavs just decided to build a whole new team in 24 hours. Who stayed there, LeBron and JR and that's it?
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Post by Pale Hose on Feb 8, 2018 13:52:43 GMT -6
And Love and Tristan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 14:49:09 GMT -6
Hornets traded JOB for Willy. Otherwise, they stand pat. They're gonna have to move Cody/Frank/Marv at some point, if not Batum somehow. Stacked front court.
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Post by dij22 on Feb 8, 2018 15:03:44 GMT -6
I kinda love George Hill and Rodney Hood with Lebron and Kevin Love. I think this is the best mini re-load they could have done midseason.
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Post by unlikelyjapan on Feb 8, 2018 19:33:54 GMT -6
I just realized Vonleh and Jordan Bell are about the same age. I had to look it up but Vonleh is actually younger. They're both listed at 6 '9 too
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Post by Blue42 on Feb 8, 2018 19:46:30 GMT -6
im still trying to figure this out Hood had his contract up after this year, maybe Utah knew they didn't want to pay him, but Rose isn't any sort of long term piece so all you really get out of it is just Jae Crowder? Unless they are getting a pick or something Rodney Hood was unhappy in Utah. The Jazz were in a lose-lose situation with him. They had 3 options with Hood:
1. Let Rodney walk in RFA. 2. Overpay for Rodney, assuming someone gives him a big offer sheet that you have to match. 3. Let the market dictate Rodney's worth, which I assume will be lower than he expects based on the Lou Williams deal (3/$24 for a better player with a similar skillset) and then match, which still leaves you with an unhappy Rodney Hood.
I'm a Jazz fan. I've been a Rodney Hood fan since they drafted him. Donovan Mitchell took his spot, plain and simple. Royce O'Neal's emergence and Alec Burks finally being healthy makes him expendable as well. A change of scenery is going to be good for both parties and I'm excited to see how he does from here.
As for Crowder, they have been wanting him for a while. They tried to get him over the summer during the whole Hayward debacle. He fits the team perfectly as a defensive 3/4 who can hit corner 3s (Utah is among the best in the league at setting those shots up). He'll probably come off the bench and close most games over Favors. And his contract is still really reasonable at around $7 mil for two more years after this one, which gives them a lot of financial flexibility this summer. They can probably bring back Exum on a team-friendly deal and I wouldn't even be surprised if they're able to get Favors back as well, given the way the Center market has dropped off. It's a great move for the Jazz.
Joe Johnson wanted a buyout so he could sign with a contender (I'm hearing Houston, Golden State or Boston) so he's not a loss. As for Rose, he's going to be a TimberBull. So no point discussing him.
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Post by llamaoftime on Feb 8, 2018 19:52:26 GMT -6
im still trying to figure this out Hood had his contract up after this year, maybe Utah knew they didn't want to pay him, but Rose isn't any sort of long term piece so all you really get out of it is just Jae Crowder? Unless they are getting a pick or something Rodney Hood was unhappy in Utah. The Jazz were in a lose-lose situation with him. They had 3 options with Hood:
1. Let Rodney walk in RFA. 2. Overpay for Rodney, assuming someone gives him a big offer sheet that you have to match. 3. Let the market dictate Rodney's worth, which I assume will be lower than he expects based on the Lou Williams deal (3/$24 for a better player with a similar skillset) and then match, which still leaves you with an unhappy Rodney Hood.
I'm a Jazz fan. I've been a Rodney Hood fan since they drafted him. Donovan Mitchell took his spot, plain and simple. Royce O'Neal's emergence and Alec Burks finally being healthy makes him expendable as well. A change of scenery is going to be good for both parties and I'm excited to see how he does from here.
As for Crowder, they have been wanting him for a while. They tried to get him over the summer during the whole Hayward debacle. He fits the team perfectly as a defensive 3/4 who can hit corner 3s (Utah is among the best in the league at setting those shots up). He'll probably come off the bench and close most games over Favors. And his contract is still really reasonable at around $7 mil for two more years after this one, which gives them a lot of financial flexibility this summer. They can probably bring back Exum on a team-friendly deal and I wouldn't even be surprised if they're able to get Favors back as well, given the way the Center market has dropped off. It's a great move for the Jazz.
Joe Johnson wanted a buyout so he could sign with a contender (I'm hearing Houston, Golden State or Boston) so he's not a loss. As for Rose, he's going to be a TimberBull. So no point discussing him.
That all makes sense, thanks for the perspective. I think I was overvaluing Hood a bit, but I was figuring they could probably get a draft pick out of him. But if Crowder is someone they've been wanting I get that and he does have a reasonable contract
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Post by Blue42 on Feb 8, 2018 19:52:47 GMT -6
Thibs is kind of a shitty coach now. wat
Did you watch the game last night?
There was no reason not to double team LeBron on that play. What good does it do to put a defender on the inbounds passer when there is only 1 second left on the clock? Jimmy defended the play perfectly, but there's nothing you can do when a guy is two inches taller than you and can hit that kind of shot fading away. That's why you have to deny him the ball. Shit coaching decision.
Aside from that, the Timberwolves have been nearly unwatchable all year despite Jimmy's brilliance. There are far too many games where the wrong guys (Teague, Crawford, Wiggins) are getting more shots than much more efficient players (Jimmy and Towns). That's on Thibs.
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Post by Blue42 on Feb 8, 2018 20:06:44 GMT -6
That all makes sense, thanks for the perspective. I think I was overvaluing Hood a bit, but I was figuring they could probably get a draft pick out of him. But if Crowder is someone they've been wanting I get that and he does have a reasonable contract I think the Jazz would've liked to get a pick as well but with their recent winning streak (I think they're at 7 in a row) putting them only 2.5 games out of the playoffs, I think they went into more of a win-now mindset. With the lack of money in the market for free agents this year, teams are clinging onto their draft picks more than usual so who knows if a first round pick was ever on the table to begin with.
Pretty sure the Cleveland pick and the New Orleans pick were the only first rounders to move this year, right? It's just gotten hard to acquire a first rounder without taking on a shit ton of bad long-term money.
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Post by dij22 on Feb 8, 2018 20:08:21 GMT -6
Aside from that, the Timberwolves have been nearly unwatchable all year despite Jimmy's brilliance. There are far too many games where the wrong guys (Teague, Crawford, Wiggins) are getting more shots than much more efficient players (Jimmy and Towns). That's on Thibs.
They are literally 3rd in the NBA in offensive efficiency.
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Post by Blue42 on Feb 8, 2018 21:25:50 GMT -6
Aside from that, the Timberwolves have been nearly unwatchable all year despite Jimmy's brilliance. There are far too many games where the wrong guys (Teague, Crawford, Wiggins) are getting more shots than much more efficient players (Jimmy and Towns). That's on Thibs.
They are literally 3rd in the NBA in offensive efficiency.
They play their starters more minutes than any other team in the league. Jimmy is leading the league in minutes per game and literally every one of their starters ranks inside the top 35. When you're playing your starters that many minutes, your rankings are going to look good.
That said, Towns ranks 12th in PER and Jimmy ranks 14th, so tell me why Wiggins is leading the team in shot attempts when his PER is tied with offensive juggernauts like Raymond Felton and Pascal Siakam at 195th. Teague is 157th, fwiw.
Thibs is a stubborn coach with an archaic way of running his team. It's going to lead to regular season success, but he's going to burn his players out before the playoffs and take years off their careers the same way he did with the Bulls.
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Post by Blue42 on Feb 10, 2018 9:05:09 GMT -6
Anyone else watch the new Bulls beat the old Bulls least night?
LaVine looked great. I’ve never understood why Minnesota viewed him as expendable while considering Wiggins this untouchable max player, and I think they’re going to regret that one for a while. LaVine looks better one month back from his ACL than Wiggins has looked at any point in his career.
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Post by iasm on Feb 10, 2018 9:24:44 GMT -6
Now that LaVine’s shown he’s worth the deal, can we sit him the rest of the year so they can still get a top 7 pick?
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Post by rango420 on Feb 10, 2018 9:34:52 GMT -6
Now that LaVine’s shown he’s worth the deal, can we sit him the rest of the year so they can still get a top 7 pick? Honestly the bulls winning consistently has alot more to do with wether or not Dunn is on the court although it seems like he'll be back after the all star break. Jerian Grant had a good game on paper last night but he's really quite terrible. Lavine continuing to create chemistry with Lopez and Lauri is a good thing. Lavine was explosive to the basket all game last night but they havent quite figured the rotation and even when they do the Bulls are still going to go under .500 for the rest of the season.
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Post by rango420 on Feb 10, 2018 9:37:12 GMT -6
Anyone else watch the new Bulls beat the old Bulls least night? LaVine looked great. I’ve never understood why Minnesota viewed him as expendable while considering Wiggins this untouchable max player, and I think they’re going to regret that one for a while. LaVine looks better one month back from his ACL than Wiggins has looked at any point in his career. I think alot of his explosively last night could be attributed to a Wolves team that refuses to play defense and having Lauri at 3/4 drawing beyond the arc attention that you might not get with Wiggins. He's definitely the most exciting players the bulls have had in years though.
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Post by Blue42 on Feb 10, 2018 9:44:23 GMT -6
I’m not sure why Fred insists on playing Grant. Even down the stretch, Lavine was acting as the PG and Grant was mostly working off ball and/or just standing in the corner. I feel like Denzel’s best role on this team is as the backup PG, so why not just use him in those situations? Granted, Denzel wasn’t playing very well last night either.
Anyway, this team will probably be too good when Dunn, Lavine and Lauri are all on the court together and healthy, not pregnant, etc. so it’s probably a good thing they’re still going to rest Zach periodically. But the Bulls are going to be pretty much set for the future if they don’t botch this next draft. Their only needs at this point are basically another big wing (Doncic?) and a long-term Center (Bamba or Anton?).
Hell, the Bulls night even be able to steal a free agent this summer if they’re one of only a handful of teams with capspace. I’m just not sure who is available who actually fits their needs.
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