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Post by iasm on Feb 10, 2018 9:56:24 GMT -6
Well if they don’t start losing more they’re not going to have a chance at those guys.
There’s basically a consensus top 7 Ayton Bagley Young Doncic Bamba Porter Jackson
After that it really drops off
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Post by rango420 on Feb 10, 2018 9:59:35 GMT -6
I mean technically Grant was playing better than Valentine last night. With the exception of Nawaba I would not be sad to see a whole new bench next year.
Edit: I think Portis and Vonleh are also strong pieces.
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Post by rango420 on Feb 10, 2018 10:03:55 GMT -6
Also isn't Doncic whole thing that he is a 1? Having him in the 2/3 position seems like it would shore up what makes him special.
It seems like the Bulls will pretty likely have the 6/7/8 pick and the 17/18 pick and it seems like this draft is heavy on 3/4 guys.
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Post by iasm on Feb 10, 2018 10:09:24 GMT -6
If they do have 6 or 7 they need to go best player available regardless of whether it’s a perfect fit, the drop off is too steep.
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Post by rango420 on Feb 10, 2018 10:10:59 GMT -6
just looking at the payroll for next year and we are stuffed full with horrible young 1/2 still I can only imagine they will go for a 3/4 even if its a slight drop but who knows.
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Post by iasm on Feb 10, 2018 10:14:05 GMT -6
Fortunately I think it would be a surprise if Doncic or Young are even available at that point.
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Post by rango420 on Feb 10, 2018 10:15:54 GMT -6
Our only guaranteed money on the books right now for 20-21 is for Felicio 8 million a year (and than some throwaway money on Asiks contract) it is absolutely puzzling to me why we gave this man so much money
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Post by rango420 on Feb 10, 2018 10:16:50 GMT -6
Fortunately I think it would be a surprise if Doncic or Young are even available at that point. Yeah seems like Doncic is definitely going first at this point
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Post by cardi bqtrain on Feb 10, 2018 10:41:27 GMT -6
I still think the Bulls will be competing for the highest number of lottery balls. They're only 3 games out and apparently Cam Payne will be in the rotation after the all-star break
and the Vonleh era looks very promising
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Post by iasm on Feb 10, 2018 10:45:33 GMT -6
I think he actually disintegrated into the floor
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Post by Blue42 on Feb 10, 2018 11:19:12 GMT -6
Well if they don’t start losing more they’re not going to have a chance at those guys. There’s basically a consensus top 7 Ayton Bagley Young Doncic Bamba Porter Jackson After that it really drops off There's a pretty distinct divide between the obvious tankers and the non-tankers at this point. There are currently 8 teams with between 17 and 19 wins. No other team has less than 23 wins (though NYK at 23 could definitely plummet without Porzingis). The Lakers are also at 23 wins, but they don't have their own pick this year so I think they'll keep trying to win to save Luke's job. So yeah, the Bulls are still very much in the heat of the tankathon.
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Post by Blue42 on Feb 10, 2018 11:25:37 GMT -6
Also isn't Doncic whole thing that he is a 1? Having him in the 2/3 position seems like it would shore up what makes him special. It seems like the Bulls will pretty likely have the 6/7/8 pick and the 17/18 pick and it seems like this draft is heavy on 3/4 guys. Most of the good teams basically have two starting PGs at this point. It's the NBA's version of "running back by committee." Keeps guys fresh and allows room for another playmaker on the court during crunch time. None of the bottom 8 teams are so stacked with guard prospects that they wouldn't take another one if he's far and away the best prospect.
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Post by rango420 on Feb 10, 2018 12:29:41 GMT -6
Also isn't Doncic whole thing that he is a 1? Having him in the 2/3 position seems like it would shore up what makes him special. It seems like the Bulls will pretty likely have the 6/7/8 pick and the 17/18 pick and it seems like this draft is heavy on 3/4 guys. Most of the good teams basically have two starting PGs at this point. It's the NBA's version of "running back by committee." Keeps guys fresh and allows room for another playmaker on the court during crunch time. None of the bottom 8 teams are so stacked with guard prospects that they wouldn't take another one if he's far and away the best prospect. I get that but he seems like he'd be better in a John Wall situation Like when you gave Westbrook too many 2/3 options vs 4/5
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Post by llamaoftime on Feb 10, 2018 13:22:51 GMT -6
Rockets just added Joe Johnson and Brandan Wright to an already very deep team. This probably means we can reduce everyone's minutes through the end of the year and keep the team fresh. Gerald Green has been playing ridiculously well off the bench too since we signed him. Don't look now but if the core of this team stays healthy they are about to give the Warriors a hell of a run for their money. Hell, FiveThirtyEight even has us as the favorites
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Post by Blue42 on Feb 10, 2018 15:49:58 GMT -6
Rockets just added Joe Johnson and Brandan Wright to an already very deep team. This probably means we can reduce everyone's minutes through the end of the year and keep the team fresh. Gerald Green has been playing ridiculously well off the bench too since we signed him. Don't look now but if the core of this team stays healthy they are about to give the Warriors a hell of a run for their money. Hell, FiveThirtyEight even has us as the favoritesI'm not sure the Rockets have much use for another guy like Joe Johnson so I'm pretty sure this move was done to block him from signing with a competitor like GS or OKC who could actually use him. That said, he basically won Utah a playoff series last year so he can still get it done if he needs to. Do we know who Houston is cutting for make room for these guys? Bobby Brown and... ? I really think GS made a mistake by not upgrading their center position at the trade deadline. A ton of guys (Dewayne Dedmon, Kyle O'Quinn, Ed Davis, Derrick Favors, etc.) were seeming attainable for cheap and could have really helped them in a series against the Rockets. Capela is going to absolutely kill them.
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Post by llamaoftime on Feb 10, 2018 16:09:02 GMT -6
Rockets just added Joe Johnson and Brandan Wright to an already very deep team. This probably means we can reduce everyone's minutes through the end of the year and keep the team fresh. Gerald Green has been playing ridiculously well off the bench too since we signed him. Don't look now but if the core of this team stays healthy they are about to give the Warriors a hell of a run for their money. Hell, FiveThirtyEight even has us as the favoritesI'm not sure the Rockets have much use for another guy like Joe Johnson so I'm pretty sure this move was done to block him from signing with a competitor like GS or OKC who could actually use him. That said, he basically won Utah a playoff series last year so he can still get it done if he needs to. Do we know who Houston is cutting for make room for these guys? Bobby Brown and... ? I really think GS made a mistake by not upgrading their center position at the trade deadline. A ton of guys (Dewayne Dedmon, Kyle O'Quinn, Ed Davis, Derrick Favors, etc.) were seeming attainable for cheap and could have really helped them in a series against the Rockets. Capela is going to absolutely kill them. I think Tarik Black has to be the odd man out there, not necessary with Wright. I haven't been impressed with him at all but I do kind of hope he doesn't sign with the Warriors if we do cut him. GS def made a mistake there and I think that's going to be a big difference in the match-up. Capela has been playing super well this season, against Denver last night he had 23 points and 25 rebounds. Dude's really come into his own. That's one of the things that gives me a bit of confidence. I also think we'll match-up defensively top to bottom about as well as anybody can against them (which isn't very well because they are insane but better than most teams is what I'm saying). And if the 3's are falling for the Rockets then I definitely have hope, and they now have a lot of weapons to make that happen. I've seen a lot of people saying we can sub in Johnson as a stretch 4 for Ryan Anderson if Anderson goes cold like he tends to do, I like that idea a bit. In general I don't see him getting a ton of use here though, I was actually a bit iffy on it because I hate taking playing time from Gerald Green, but at the same time it makes us sooo deep.
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Post by dij22 on Feb 12, 2018 22:28:57 GMT -6
I've watched the entire Jazz/Spurs game for no reason (gambling addict) and Donovan Mitchell reminds me so much of Derrick Rose.
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Post by Blue42 on Feb 13, 2018 8:41:29 GMT -6
I've watched the entire Jazz/Spurs game for no reason (gambling addict) and Donovan Mitchell reminds me so much of Derrick Rose. Best comp I've heard for Donovan is "Wade with range."
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Post by dij22 on Feb 13, 2018 10:59:25 GMT -6
I've watched the entire Jazz/Spurs game for no reason (gambling addict) and Donovan Mitchell reminds me so much of Derrick Rose. Best comp I've heard for Donovan is "Wade with range." That's a good one. I always thought Derrick and Wade were super similar and I was very excited for like a decade at the idea of Wade being on the Bulls. That ended up not being very fun.
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Post by rango420 on Feb 16, 2018 18:30:13 GMT -6
Bulls should sign Win Butler and Quavo in the offseason.
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Post by Pale Hose on Feb 16, 2018 18:51:37 GMT -6
Bulls should sign Win Butler and Quavo in the offseason. This is the only scenario in which Win would get to experience performing at the UC when it's full.
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Post by rango420 on Feb 16, 2018 18:53:08 GMT -6
The kid from Black-Ish trying to call picks was extremely cute but Kevin Hart ruined the celebrity game RIP
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Post by unlikelyjapan on Feb 16, 2018 22:45:45 GMT -6
Good to see Quavo get the MVP. I feel a little better about 2018 now. We should have known something was rotten in the state of Denmark when Win Butler won in 2016
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Post by unlikelyjapan on Feb 16, 2018 22:46:21 GMT -6
That alliteration. Fuck
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 10:59:07 GMT -6
Hornets fired their GM (finally). Hopefully they learn how to draft sooner than later.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 11:12:21 GMT -6
I always got the impression that Jordan insists on being actively involved with drafting and free agents, so not sure how much value a GM has at that point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 11:30:42 GMT -6
That's definitely been the case. Hopefully, the new guy is someone that's not afraid to tell him what's what.
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Post by andrewvb on Feb 23, 2018 12:07:09 GMT -6
even by steph curry standards this is crazy
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Post by unlikelyjapan on Feb 23, 2018 13:15:36 GMT -6
The Bulls game last night was perfect. I feel bad the players lost a game like that but as a fan it was exactly what you'd want to see from this team
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Post by andrewvb on Mar 1, 2018 20:08:49 GMT -6
goddamn
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