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Post by anime on Jul 10, 2017 11:39:39 GMT -6
I can't believe Aya Hirano aka Haruhi was on my block recently (as shown via her Instagram) and I didn't meet her by happenstance. That is an opportunity that will never arise again. :/
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Post by anime on Jul 10, 2017 11:39:56 GMT -6
Okay, y'all can make fun of anime now. Have fun.
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Post by thebosma on Jul 10, 2017 11:57:23 GMT -6
Alright here's a legitimate question. I've seen a handful of anime films. Lots of the studio Ghibli stuff. Akita. Ghost in the Shell. If I'm looking to expand my interest in the medium but also not get into some TV show with 6,000 episodes and a dozen boring character arcs, what should I be looking at?
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Post by Xamnam on Jul 10, 2017 11:59:15 GMT -6
Cowboy Bebop
Trigun
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Post by irvred on Jul 10, 2017 12:05:07 GMT -6
Perfect Blue and Paprika are both A+ classics that are well-known but slightly off the beaten path of Ghibli/Akira.
I really like a movie called Red Line which is bananas nonsense about an F-Zero-type space car race. I love the art/animation itself but don't expect a lot out of the writing.
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Post by anime on Jul 10, 2017 12:08:49 GMT -6
If you liked GitS/Akira (especially the former) then you'd likely dig Psycho-Pass. S1 is one of my favs. Urobuchi Gen wasn't involved with S2 and it shows because the quality dip is pretty substantial... you can skip that and just watch the film which is really good and acts as a follow-up to S1.
Also check out Satoshi Kon's work. All four of his films and his anime series are fantastic... he's right next to Hideaki Anno as far as favorite anime directors go. Perfect Blue is my favorite film of his although admittedly it loses a bit of impact if you don't have a basic knowledge of idol culture. You really can't go wrong with anything by him.
Makoto Shinkai and Mamoru Hosoda are good modern directors that can scratch the Ghibli itch. For Shinkai, I'd recommend 5 Centimeters per Second and (especially because of its recent significance) Your Name. For Hosoda, Wolf Children is pretty outstanding. I haven't seen Summer Wars from Hosoda which is also supposed to be really good.
There are plenty of classics like Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Neon Genesis Evangelion, etc. that I feel are critical watches. I feel like a lot of people around here would appreciate Samurai Champloo and Kids on the Slope as well while we're talking Bebop director Shinichiro Watanabe.
I'm overloading you here a bit so if I had to pick three things for you to check out to begin with based on your taste they'd be Psycho-Pass, Paranoia Agent (Satoshi Kon's anime series) and Wolf Children.
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Post by anime on Jul 10, 2017 12:10:09 GMT -6
I really like a movie called Red Line which is bananas nonsense about an F-Zero-type space car race. I love the art/animation itself but don't expect a lot out of the writing. I like Red Line but I feel it's overanimated. I don't feel like constant motion is always a good thing, although this is heresy to the sakuga dudes I work with. I haven't seen the dub for it but I'd assume it's the way to go because trying to read subtitles with that much motion is a headache. Regardless, good film. |
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Post by anime on Jul 10, 2017 12:14:09 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 12:23:49 GMT -6
Alright here's a legitimate question. I've seen a handful of anime films. Lots of the studio Ghibli stuff. Akita. Ghost in the Shell. If I'm looking to expand my interest in the medium but also not get into some TV show with 6,000 episodes and a dozen boring character arcs, what should I be looking at? Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu Ping Pong: The Animation The Tatami Galaxy Your Lie in April Kill la Kill Golden Time Monogatari Series Katanagatari Mirai Nikki Death Note Nisekoi One Punch Man Spice and Wolf Prison School Re: Zero - Starting Life in Another World |
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Post by anime on Jul 10, 2017 12:27:18 GMT -6
I mean, some of those are good series but a lot of them don't necessarily play to what he's established as his interest. Some of those need to be eased into... if anyone new to anime dropped right into Monogatari (which is one of my favs) or Re:Zero (which is only alright, it really goes downhill after the political arc) they could very easily be turned off. Heck, Monogatari and some of those others really don't have the same impact if you don't know about the genres/tropes/culture that they're commenting on.
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Post by anime on Jul 10, 2017 12:29:44 GMT -6
Like, sure, I'd recommend Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu (haven't seen S2 yet though, really need to, but S1 was my #1 show of 2016) or Katanagatari to just about anyone, but I also don't think something being great for a broad audience necessarily makes it a great first watch. You need to tailor that to the person.
Psycho-Pass builds upon the themes of things he's already enjoyed.
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Post by thebosma on Jul 10, 2017 13:09:44 GMT -6
Thanks everyone! Looks like I have some stuff to watch!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 14:00:26 GMT -6
He said he's watched Ghibli films and Ghost in the Shell. It's not like he asked for some very specific thing. Not really sure what foundation you're referencing. Also FWIW Psycho Pass Season 2 and the Film were horrible. Bad enough that they actively made me dislike the series.
I started Monogatari with very little anime experience and understood it fine. Most of the jokes literally explain themselves.
Re:Zero is basically just a generic shonen. It doesn't take any "experience" to "get."
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Post by anime on Jul 10, 2017 14:03:49 GMT -6
They made you retroactively dislike the first season which you had already enjoyed? That's a really weird thing to think, but w.e. Definitely do not agree the film was horrible, even remotely.
And given that he said he liked those things I wanted to ease him into the medium with things that continue from where those things left off while building a further foundation for what the medium can do. Then you move people to other things. Again, a lot of your recommendations would not mean as much to someone who doesn't understand the medium or could be completely jarring. Name-dropping a dozen series without any context as to why he should watch them is also unhelpful.
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Post by anime on Jul 10, 2017 14:08:16 GMT -6
I started Monogatari with very little anime experience and understood it fine. Most of the jokes literally explain themselves. Re:Zero is basically just a generic shonen. It doesn't take any "experience" to "get." This was edited in after I first saw your post, so: You get a lot less out of Monogatari if you don't understand the tropes. It's a commentary on harem series. Sure, it's not completely unenjoyable outside of that, but it's commitment to "fanservice" (even if said fanservice is meaningful) would be a turn-off for many less acquainted with the medium. So no, Monogatari is absolutely not a good starting point. Further, he asked for shorter series and Monogatari is pretty long. Re:Zero is like super fetishy/fanservice-y, man. Just because it's fairly lowest common denominator doesn't mean it's going to appeal to people who don't already enjoy anime. And I really don't think Re:Zero is a good enough show to introduce someone to the medium with. I would watch neither of those as first forays into the medium. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 14:09:15 GMT -6
They made you retroactively dislike the first season which you had already enjoyed? That's a really weird thing to think, but w.e. Definitely do not agree the film was horrible, even remotely. And given that he said he liked those things I wanted to ease him into the medium with things that continue from where those things left off while building a further foundation for what the medium can do. Then you move people to other things. Again, a lot of your recommendations would not mean as much to someone who doesn't understand the medium or could be completely jarring. Name-dropping a dozen series without any context as to why he should watch them is also unhelpful. You haven't ever seen a series that becomes such a trainwreck that is makes you actively dislike the entire thing? I see people saying that all the time, sometimes I agree, sometimes I disagree. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 14:10:07 GMT -6
New topic:
Aside from Ballroom (which I'm sure won't be anywhere near as good as the manga), Summer 2017 season seems really weak so far.
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Post by anime on Jul 10, 2017 14:11:45 GMT -6
They made you retroactively dislike the first season which you had already enjoyed? That's a really weird thing to think, but w.e. Definitely do not agree the film was horrible, even remotely. And given that he said he liked those things I wanted to ease him into the medium with things that continue from where those things left off while building a further foundation for what the medium can do. Then you move people to other things. Again, a lot of your recommendations would not mean as much to someone who doesn't understand the medium or could be completely jarring. Name-dropping a dozen series without any context as to why he should watch them is also unhelpful. You haven't ever seen a series that becomes such a trainwreck that is makes you actively dislike the entire thing? I see people saying that all the time, sometimes I agree, sometimes I disagree. I mean, unless the parts of Psycho-Pass revealed problems present in the stuff you enjoyed then not really. Especially when the first Psycho-Pass series was made to work on its own... it's an anime original series and continuations were made only because it was popular. It's its own thing. |
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Post by irvred on Jul 10, 2017 14:12:51 GMT -6
Bleach and Naruto got that way for me, but those were real dumb dumb shonen series anyway. Death Note almost hit that point but I think the manga's ending really pulled it out of the nosedive.
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Post by anime on Jul 10, 2017 14:16:42 GMT -6
The difference is that those were continuing stories though. Psycho-Pass S1 is its own complete thing.
Anyway w.e this isn't important. He can think what he wants.
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Post by anime on Jul 10, 2017 14:19:03 GMT -6
New topic: Aside from Ballroom (which I'm sure won't be anywhere near as good as the manga), Summer 2017 season seems really weak so far. I don't watch anime as it airs anymore but I'll make an exception for New Game S2 because my waifu is in it (Kou). I'm also excited for Owarimonogatari S2 (you're not excited for that as a Monogatari fan?) and Violet Evergarden because based KyoAni. I'll judge if anything else is worth watching after it airs, although I feel the year has been pretty weak so far in general. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 14:30:49 GMT -6
Bleach and Naruto got that way for me, but those were real dumb dumb shonen series anyway. Death Note almost hit that point but I think the manga's ending really pulled it out of the nosedive. Bleach should have basically ended after the first large arc. Everything after that was garbage. Naruto's anime was ruined by hundreds of filler episodes. Aside from that, the series became a parody of itself with its terrible war arc that lasted far too long. The end of the series and Boruto were both so cringeworthy. Series was great for a shonen up until then though (at least the manga was). |
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Post by anime on Jul 12, 2017 7:25:45 GMT -6
First episode of the new season of New Game is so good. Also loved how it slipped in some social commentary about the gaming/tech industries as it often does. I love this series so much. :3
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Post by anime on Aug 20, 2017 14:41:54 GMT -6
I watched Tsuki ga Kirei last week and it was cute. Comfy and well-written, but also not all that out of the ordinary for a shoujo series, and the end made me groan a little. The series had to have been sponsored by LINE with how they constantly call the service by name and show the app, although the way they depict how young people build friendships through texting these days felt super genuine because of it. Some of the better product placement I've seen as it really added to the narrative in a big way. Characters are drawn off-model enough to be noticeable, but the art style is super pleasant and makes up for it. Would definitely recommend if you're down for a well-made shoujo about third-year middle school students navigating relationships for the first time. And if that sounds like not your bag, don't bother.
Halfway through Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 right now and about to watch the second half but I'm loving it so far. Super unique, and showing Tokyo destroyed in this capacity would be crazy expensive to do live-action so it's hard to imagine this done to this level of detail outside of animation. Will say that it borders on implausible how many times the main characters are in the wrong place at the wrong time and almost face immediate peril.
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Post by anime on Aug 21, 2017 4:32:41 GMT -6
Finished Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 last night and... it really was pretty disappointing given the hopes I had for it. I had some reservations after the first half but the second really only exacerbates the issues and becomes overwrought melodrama that was a soar to watch. The show simply doesn't have enough ideas to fill its time so it repeats the same scenarios ad nauseam and becomes unbearable when they play the emotional punch note for way too long in the last two episodes. Ultimately did not enjoy, but it could have made for a good 90-120 minute film if edited down.
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Post by anime on Aug 29, 2017 11:54:47 GMT -6
So... I've never seen Death Note and think I probably should. I do know the big twist, though. Is it still worth watching despite that? Will it hold up?
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Post by irvred on Aug 29, 2017 12:47:00 GMT -6
Read the manga. The anime changes the ending just enough to make it less impactful.
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Post by anime on Aug 29, 2017 12:50:46 GMT -6
Honestly, I could read the manga after but the anime is accessible without having to pay for the books and also would give me something more relevant to people who read my stuff to write about. I'll think about it though, I'm sure the manga is better.
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Post by anime on Aug 31, 2017 11:44:27 GMT -6
I'm rewatching Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu S1 before jumping into S2 (second half of the story, basically) and wow, this is truly one of the best series of the decade. Damn.
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Post by anime on Sept 22, 2017 0:07:26 GMT -6
I'm rewatching Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu S1 before jumping into S2 (second half of the story, basically) and wow, this is truly one of the best series of the decade. Damn. I'm finally getting into S2 and yeah, this series is outstanding. |
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