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Post by neader on Dec 12, 2017 8:21:30 GMT -6
also did I miss it or is Phoebe Bridgers no where on this?
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Post by neader on Dec 12, 2017 8:22:21 GMT -6
Has anyone here actually listened to the SZA album? Jesus. It's really good. #2 can definitely be justified, not that it needs t obe. good album but nowhere near blond is all i meant not at all, i'd agree with that. just every time control is on a list i've seen people here complain about it like it's a shit record. |
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Post by concertgoer on Dec 12, 2017 8:23:09 GMT -6
The xx only being at 40 is some bullshit.
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Post by mookie on Dec 12, 2017 8:23:43 GMT -6
it's honestly a shame that none of those great experimental records made it. could have really used some exposure since there were a lot of highlights in that space this year. presumably we'll get a runners up type list again? disappointed circuit des yeux didn't make the list as well. yeah did blanck mass even make it? p4k gone full vanilla (ironically) Shit you're right, somehow that didn't even make it |
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 12, 2017 8:24:55 GMT -6
it's honestly a shame that none of those great experimental records made it. could have really used some exposure since there were a lot of highlights in that space this year. presumably we'll get a runners up type list again? disappointed circuit des yeux didn't make the list as well. yeah did blanck mass even make it? p4k gone full vanilla (ironically) really is like the most boring list from them ever. like no surprises at all. |
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Post by Xamnam on Dec 12, 2017 8:26:17 GMT -6
as long as King Krule and FJM are back to back, we'll have done our due diligence. This is a good time to remind everyone that we only have 11 usable lists. And one of them's me. |
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Post by Xamnam on Dec 12, 2017 8:27:00 GMT -6
The xx only being at 40 is some bullshit. Yeah, it's more of, like, a 140, I think? |
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Post by dij22 on Dec 12, 2017 8:32:42 GMT -6
Ultimately I think this list marks the end of the "every 19 year old British kid with a laptop gets BNM" era of Pitchfork.
We are deep in the throes of the "no actually everything your 14 year old listens to on Soundcloud is fantastic" era.
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Post by regionrat6337 on Dec 12, 2017 8:33:26 GMT -6
also did I miss it or is Phoebe Bridgers no where on this? She’s not and that sucks. I know P4k wasnt as high on the album as everywhere else...I think gave it a 7? (Scores don’t matter with this list, I know I know) |
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 12, 2017 8:35:26 GMT -6
Ultimately I think this list marks the end of the "every 19 year old British kid with a laptop gets BNM" era of Pitchfork. We are deep in the throes of the "no actually everything your 14 year old listens to on Soundcloud is fantastic" era. did you miss king krule in the top 10? we're more at the end of "every 20 something guy in brooklyn with a laptop gets BNM" |
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 12, 2017 8:39:31 GMT -6
the top 10 of the list is actually pretty good and the most interesting part. jlin, fever ray, vince, king krule, moses sumney.
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Post by concertgoer on Dec 12, 2017 8:41:36 GMT -6
Has anyone here actually listened to the SZA album? Jesus. It's really good. #2 can definitely be justified, not that it needs t obe. Also this is 3/3 for Kendrick getting AOTY by P4K. Not surprising (as said, I'd consider this year somewhat weak, same with 2015) but pretty impressive. The SZA album was fine, but it didn't seem very memorable to me. Maybe I need to give it another few listens. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 8:42:38 GMT -6
these are very roundabout ways of saying that goodson basically wrote this list.
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 12, 2017 8:50:45 GMT -6
one thing that's really wild about the pitchfork list is how there are almost no "bands" or "groups" really, it's so many individual artists. on quick count, i counted 12 groups as opposed to individuals out of 50. and even that is almost being generous, with counting acts like LCD and the war on drugs as "groups" even though they almost aren't. the top 10 is entirely singular artists. extreme auteur period these days.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 8:53:21 GMT -6
that continues to fall into their trend of "rock is dead bruh" though.
they've been pushing the narrative for solo singer/songwriters for a while but this year was easily the most transparent about it.
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Post by cardi bqtrain on Dec 12, 2017 8:57:32 GMT -6
i like that they transferred RtJ over to 2017
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 12, 2017 8:58:05 GMT -6
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 12, 2017 8:58:54 GMT -6
re: pitchfork's list, waxahatchee is a snub that i'm actually surprised about.
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Post by Tweet on Dec 12, 2017 9:01:02 GMT -6
these are very roundabout ways of saying that goodson basically wrote this list. That was exactly my thought after I read the top 10 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 9:01:20 GMT -6
goodson works there too?! |
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Post by thebosma on Dec 12, 2017 9:02:38 GMT -6
That NPR list is pretty good if you ignore some of the order of it.
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Post by neader on Dec 12, 2017 9:02:58 GMT -6
Floored that Julien didn't make this list when they were constantly promoting her and she has a tiny desk coming out any day now |
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 12, 2017 9:03:27 GMT -6
goodson works there too?! if it were goodson, swap in playboi carti for kendrick |
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Post by dij22 on Dec 12, 2017 9:03:34 GMT -6
I really like Big Thief at #3 on the NPR list.
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Post by Tweet on Dec 12, 2017 9:03:59 GMT -6
IDK that Pitchfork list looks exactly like you'd think a Pitchfork list would look like. There's some good stuff on there, some not so good stuff on there, and Lil Peep not being on there is goofy
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 12, 2017 9:04:29 GMT -6
That NPR list is pretty good if you ignore some of the order of it. yeah it's really varied and has got several things i should check out |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 10:51:34 GMT -6
I'm still a noob to rap but DAMN (while being great) pales in comparison to Butterfly. At this rate the P4K top 10 of 2010-2019 will be 5 Kendrick albums and 5 Kanye albums. kind of points to this being a fairly weak year if you're gonna focus on pop-adjacent music. last year's top 2 of blonde and a seat at the table are miles ahead of damn and ctrl. Disagree. A seat at the table is dull and aside from Cranes in the Sky there wasn’t a single memorable melody to me. At least SZA is catchy. Blonde and Endless should have been combined into one album using tracks from each. Damn is a much better, cohesive effort. It’s more politically relevant. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 11:32:02 GMT -6
Billboard's Top Selling Hard Rock Albums of 2017
1. Hardwired...To Self-Destruct - Metallica
2. Metallica - Metallica
3. [Hybrid Theory] - Linkin Park
4. Greatest Hits - Guns N' Roses
5. Greatest Hits I II & III: The Platinum Collection - Queen
6. Concrete And Gold - Foo Fighters
7. Immortalized - Disturbed
8. Journey's Greatest Hits - Journey
9. Mothership - Led Zeppelin
10. Back In Black - AC/DC
11. Greatest Hits - Foo Fighters
12. The Wrong Side Of Heaven And The Righteous Side Of Hell: Volume 1 - Five Finger Death Punch
13. Meteora - Linkin Park
14. ...And Justice For All - Metallica
15. Villains - Queens Of The Stone Age
16. Master Of Puppets - Metallica
17. Aerosmith's Greatest Hits - Aerosmith
18. Greatest Hits: The Ultimate Collection - Bon Jovi
19. Feed The Machine - Nickelback
20. Greatest Hits - Queen
21. All The Right Reasons - Nickelback
22. Unleashed - Skillet
23. Lifelines - I Prevail
24. The Ghosts Of Christmas Eve - Trans-Siberian Orchestra
25. The Stage - Avenged Sevenfold
26. Got Your Six -Five Finger Death Punch
27. Emperor Of Sand - Mastodon
28. The Greatest Hits - 3 Doors Down
29. The Best Of Nickelback: Volume 1 - Nickelback
30. Superunknown - Soundgarden
31. Hydrograd - Stone Sour
32. Crooked Teeth - Papa Roach
33. Minutes To Midnight - Linkin Park
34. Audioslave - Audioslave
35. One - X - Three Days Grace
36. Heaven Upside Down - Marilyn Manson
37. Slippery When Wet - Bon Jovi
38. Poison The Parish - Seether
39. The Boy Who Died Wolf - Highly Suspect
40. Wolves - Rise Against
41. AFI (The Blood Album) - AFI
42. The Serenity Of Suffering - Korn
43. Ritual - In This Moment
44. Toxicity - System Of A Down
45. Appetite For Destruction - Guns N' Roses
46. Experience Hendrix: The Best Of Jimi Hendrix - Jimi Hendrix
47. Prophets Of Rage - Prophets Of Rage
48. The Stories We Tell Ourselves - Nothing More
49. How Did We Get So Dark? - Royal Blood
50. Vessels - Starset
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Post by Broc1123 on Dec 12, 2017 11:43:20 GMT -6
What that Pitchfork list says to me is that there were no important or classic indie rock albums to come out this year.
I'd disagree but that's fine.
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Post by andrewvb on Dec 12, 2017 11:48:11 GMT -6
pitchfork are doing a reddit ama today if you want to give them shit about this list.
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