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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 11:22:41 GMT -6
he pretty much nailed the Mandalorian finale and he's been handling big franchises pretty well so far so i'm definitely down for that -- even tho i'm sure i've previously said i don't want anymore star wars movies for a while lol
edit: although i take the news with a grain of salt cause nothing has come of the Rian Johnson spinoffs, they fired the GoT guys, and somethingsomething #JJCut
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Post by Kamera on May 4, 2020 11:59:14 GMT -6
I tried to buy these Starbucks "You Are Here" mugs this morning on the Disney website with no success.  |
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Post by llamaoftime on May 4, 2020 12:01:54 GMT -6
I'm a little worried about them stifling creative control a bit with a comedy leaning director after what happened with Lord and Miller but Taika is a good choice all around
also feels like theres a million potential Star Wars projects out there
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Post by llamaoftime on May 4, 2020 12:04:46 GMT -6
this is pretty good albeit it is my second favorite add a song to a part in Star Wars video
TROS spoilers if anyone still cares
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Post by krentist on May 4, 2020 13:00:18 GMT -6
[REDACTED] ranked every star wars film, series ,and special which is a double whammie. In addition to being just a bad list it's also a really dumb idea for a list. I will not link it because even though I follow neader on letterboxd I respect everyone here's intelligence
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Post by sleeping on May 4, 2020 13:05:04 GMT -6
New movie is Osmosis Jones except it's about a midichlorian inside of Anakin Skywalker. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 13:10:51 GMT -6
New movie is Osmosis Jones except it's about a midichlorian inside of Anakin Skywalker. Things That Would Make More Sense Than The Exposition in Phantom Menace for $400, Alex. |
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Post by neader on May 4, 2020 13:22:50 GMT -6
[REDACTED] ranked every star wars film, series ,and special which is a double whammie. In addition to being just a bad list it's also a really dumb idea for a list. I will not link it because even though I follow neader on letterboxd I respect everyone here's intelligence this is quite possibly the worst list I've ever seen. revenge of the sith at 13 and rise of skywalker at 6 is truly something. lol wow solo at 4. might watch rots tonight for the "holiday", it rules and I feel like I've seen empire and tlj more recently (the top 3 of the saga imo) |
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Post by krentist on May 4, 2020 13:40:40 GMT -6
yeah I mean. We've been through this ranking enough but Solo didn't need a reason to exist and frankly I was bored by it which is one of the last adjectives I'd wanna use to describe the Han Solo movie.
Rogue One is a great looking movie that doesn't work for me as a whole.
I have some minor issues with the plotting in The Last Jedi but outside of the Mission Impossible films it's my favorite tentpole of the last five years and gets better each time I watch it.
The prequels suck but at least were made by a person with a vision and not a focus group.
TFA is good enough at manipulating the seratonin triggers and it's elevated by a great new cast.
TROS is a mess with few if any redeeming qualities. Just an unconscionable act of cowardice.
All three of the OT movies are good to great.
All of hhich is just to say CoS could've made a better list by picking from a hat.
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Post by llamaoftime on May 4, 2020 13:48:16 GMT -6
Frankly I was bored by it which is one of the last adjectives I'd wanna use to describe the Han Solo movie. rise of skywalker at 6 is truly something. TROS is a mess with few if any redeeming qualities. Just an unconscionable act of cowardice. I do not have access to see this list and I am therefore very, very confused. What ranks behind these two if they are bad but ranked that high |
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Post by Xamnam on May 4, 2020 13:52:02 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 13:53:21 GMT -6
why would you
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Post by llamaoftime on May 4, 2020 13:53:40 GMT -6
I am an idiot and thought Krentist ranked the Star Wars films on Letterboxed but then was saying how none of us follow him on letterboxed except neader
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Post by facts on May 4, 2020 13:56:14 GMT -6
TLJ made me feel bummed to have invested a lot of time caring about the sequel trilogy. Not in critique of it as a standalone film, but in terms of what the overall plan was. Tried to watch it a second time and just couldn't muster the strength to finish it.
TROS made me feel embarrassed to actually have supported anything involving any of the sequel trilogy, and retroactively ruined the good parts of TFA. I dont think I'll ever watch it again.
The Mandalorian is good and the Clone Wars series has always been good.
The morale of the story is - if Filoni or Favreau are not involved it's an easy no.
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Post by llamaoftime on May 4, 2020 13:59:27 GMT -6
this list is awful i wish i hadnt posted so i could just keep going on blissfully unaware that it exists and isnt contained to a private letterboxd account
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Post by sleeping on May 4, 2020 15:26:45 GMT -6
I was about to post that I never bothered to watch Rise of Skywalker and then I remembered that I never bothered to watch Revenge of the Sith either.
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Post by fivehole on May 5, 2020 7:20:05 GMT -6
If you want to remove the bad taste of recent Star Wars movies from your mouth go and watch the last 4 episodes of The Clone Wars. It is everything that is right with Star Wars. Tells an excellent and interesting story. It may not have quite the emotional impact if you haven't seen the previous seasons but I think the ending was damn near perfect. Hopefully Filoni finds another outlet (besides The Mandolorian) because he has been the best thing about the franchise since he started working there 15 years ago.
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Post by krentist on May 5, 2020 13:46:44 GMT -6
They should either promote him to producer on the movies or just hire a complete outsider to shake up the franchise. Just thinking about the first five movies they've made under Kennedy's stewardship:
Remake
Evocative throwaway line stretched to feature length for some reason
Good movie they spent 2 years apologizing for
Evocative throwaway line(s) stretched to feature length for some reason
Trying their damnedest to tack a remake on to the back end of the trilogy
Hard to imagine a less interesting use of the IP...
Haven't watched all the clone wars but if the quarantine stretches out to 2022 I'll think about it.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 22:48:17 GMT -6
watching TROS for the first time since opening night.
so far everything is about the same for me as the first time and not in a good way. this pacing is awful and the plot leaping from mcguffin to mcguffin is even more transparent on repeat watches.
worst of all, i didn't realize there is a line where Kylo literally says "my mother was the daughter of Vader. your father was the son of Palpatine."
so the force baby theory is apparently out -- Palpatine straight up procreated at least once and then knew his powers skipped a generation. aaaaaye what is this script even
i will say it is a very aesthetically pleasing film but that's Abrams for ya
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 23:21:47 GMT -6
oh okay Luke and Leia knew Rey was a Palpatine all along how the fuck does that work??
can we do a zoom party this weekend where we drunkenly MST3K this bitch
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Post by facts on May 6, 2020 8:18:22 GMT -6
It's such a dumb movie and there was never a cohesive plan for the trilogy. I was one of the last 5 or so people on earth who still read the books and there was supposed to be a story group tying everything together. It turned out to be total BS and even JJ has admitted they were making it up as they go.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 8:40:50 GMT -6
It's such a dumb movie and there was never a cohesive plan for the trilogy. I was one of the last 5 or so people on earth who still read the books and there was supposed to be a story group tying everything together. It turned out to be total BS and even JJ has admitted they were making it up as they go. my biggest takeaway from this rewatch of 9 is that a LOT of the issues can be traced back to JJ in 7 more than RJ in 8 or firing Trevorrow/bringing JJ back at the last minute in 9. he had so many "mystery boxes" that he took such pride in that absolutely no one ever had a plan for, including him *. i don't think changing much in 8 or letting Trevorrow handle 9 would've fixed some of the major foundational issues because no two sequels could totally wrap up all the shit he started in 7 and it was probably foolish of us to expect anyone could -- especially when Disney visibly decided it would be 3 separate writer/director projects with no coordination or underlying creative team. one could argue that the OG trilogy suffers from this a bit as well since Lucas doesn't explain much in 4 but then we got the prequel trilogy solely for exposition's sake, so... *this is actually part of what makes like 8 even more. Johnson looked at the mystery boxes and went "or we could NOT leave everything open-ended!" but rather than just ignoring it or sticking his finger in JJ's eye, he respectfully builds a mythos around Rey and Luke and bakes it into theme of Anyone Can Be A Jedi |
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Post by neader on May 6, 2020 8:51:54 GMT -6
It's such a dumb movie and there was never a cohesive plan for the trilogy. I was one of the last 5 or so people on earth who still read the books and there was supposed to be a story group tying everything together. It turned out to be total BS and even JJ has admitted they were making it up as they go. one could argue that the OG trilogy suffers from this a bit as well since Lucas doesn't explain much in 4 but then we got the prequel trilogy solely for exposition's sake, so... the clone wars gets mentioned, what, twice in a 30 second sequence but is also the same scene where we learn what jedi are which totally overshadows it as nothing more than a throwaway comment. |
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Post by facts on May 6, 2020 8:56:05 GMT -6
To me the issue lies with Kathy Kennedy, who was supposed to be in charge of the whole mess. JJ has claimed that his job was to basically reboot the story with some familiar beats and throw in a few mystery boxes and SW tropes. I thought he mostly succeeded there.
But then RJ didnt follow any of those and seemed to completely undermine them. And it didnt sound like any of that was planned. And then JJ came back and had to just string a bunch of things together. If KK was not in charge, who was? I could live with whatever they wanted to do as long as there was a running plan.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 9:24:37 GMT -6
To me the issue lies with Kathy Kennedy i can get on board with laying the blame at the production teams and Disney/Lucas Films as a whole. (i don't know enough about Kennedy's position and role to really skewer her for it but she definitely doesn't look good any way you slice it) JJ has claimed that his job was to basically reboot the story with some familiar beats and throw in a few mystery boxes and SW tropes But then RJ didnt follow any of those and seemed to completely undermine them. both of these sentiments seem out of whack tho. if JJ is allegedly as interested in filmmaking and storytelling and Star Wars as a whole as he often tells everyone, i think "i was paid to make a movie with a lot of nostalgia and vague references" is a really shitty line and makes him and 7 look way worse. we don't have to re-litigate 8 because everyone has done it ad nauseam across the internet for years but the argument that it doesn't answer anything from 7 is a wild take that i've never grasped no matter how many times twitter says it. |
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Post by goodson on May 6, 2020 9:27:15 GMT -6
tbh i think unless we let george run it there should not even be an attempt at a massive multi-film arc
get young and good directors and let them go buckwild with the star wars property without being tied to some jj abrams shit is the future
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Post by Kamera on May 6, 2020 9:30:09 GMT -6
Filoni should take over. He's essentially the son George Lucas never had.
Also, please please please give us a Doctor Aphra show.
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Post by fivehole on May 6, 2020 9:33:41 GMT -6
I think the best thing they could do at this point is to abandon the main story-line and maybe even to some extent the main characters of the 9 main movies. I think between The Mandalorian, The Clone Wars, Rebels, and to some extent Rogue One they've done a great job of telling interesting stories that fill in gaps in the timeline and aside from the Clone Wars don't rely heavily on the main characters from the main movies. They've also done this with the graphic novels but if people won't watch an animated show they certainly aren't reading a comic. Their new High Republic stuff seems to be an attempt at this but we'll have to see how that all plays out.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 9:34:20 GMT -6
tbh i think unless we let george run it there should not even be an attempt at a massive multi-film arc get young and good directors and let them go buckwild with the star wars property without being tied to some jj abrams shit is the future i'm on board with this too in retrospect actually i did find myself thinking last night that having Lucas on board for 7-9 would've been a saving grace. he should never touch a camera again but having a guiding hand on the rules of the universe, the history of old characters, etc. would've done a lot of good |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 9:37:05 GMT -6
I think the best thing they could do at this point is to abandon the main story-line and maybe even to some extent the main characters of the 9 main movies. with the exception of the Kenobi film (which i think is on indefinite hiatus cause covid) are they planning on anymore of these? sincere question. i haven't kept up with SW news since seeing 9 in theaters. much as i enjoy rey, finn, and poe, i can't imagine there's much demand for knowing what they do next. seems like for better or worse, 9 closed the book on everyone that could have a spin-off. NO ONE POST A JAR JAR MEME, I SWEAR TO GOD |
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