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Post by iasm on Jun 20, 2018 10:37:54 GMT -6
There hasn't been much talk of MPJ to Memphis. I think a more likely scenario is:
4. JJJ
5. MPJ or Bamba
6. Young or Sexton
7. MPJ or Bamba
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Post by iasm on Jun 20, 2018 10:39:07 GMT -6
100% bulls will draft Porter Jr. and than in the first practice he will be split in half in some sort of scary movie esque 4 incident Bobby Portis will absolutely be involved in this |
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Post by Blue42 on Jun 20, 2018 11:33:15 GMT -6
Apparently Kawhi flat out told Popovich he doesn't want to be in San Antonio anymore during their meeting last night. I really think they'll try to move into the top 5 and Sacramento and Memphis seem like the most likely trade partners.
If you're Memphis, is it worth trading #4 for what might be only one year of Kawhi to see if you can get one more run out of the Gasol/Conley core? I know they've had some trouble getting prospects (JJJ, Bamba, etc.) to even work out for them, so that might play into their decision there.
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Post by Blue42 on Jun 20, 2018 12:48:55 GMT -6
I'd be willing to make a beer bet that OKC is not a playoff team next year.
Are beer bets still a thing here? You know, since most of us don't really go to festivals anymore.
EDIT: Also, don't underestimate Roberson's knee injury. A patellar tendon is worse than an ACL, and probably the second most difficult injury to return from behind a torn Achilles. I'd be shocked if he's 80% of what he was before the injury. i’ll 100% take you up on that beer bet! i don’t know where you are, but chances are i won’t see you at a fest. don’t worry - i’ll let you know which beer store i shop at in okc so you can send me a giftcard ;-) and i’ll take an 80% roberson over no roberson or a lot of other players anyday.
I feel like this bet has become unfair because Portland beer > OKC beer, but I agree to your terms.
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Post by borracho on Jun 20, 2018 12:59:31 GMT -6
i’ll 100% take you up on that beer bet! i don’t know where you are, but chances are i won’t see you at a fest. don’t worry - i’ll let you know which beer store i shop at in okc so you can send me a giftcard ;-) and i’ll take an 80% roberson over no roberson or a lot of other players anyday.
I feel like this bet has become unfair because Portland beer > OKC beer, but I agree to your terms.
haha. don't underestimate oklahoma beer! home to prairie artisan ales, which is fantastic. |
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Post by totally on Jun 20, 2018 17:30:42 GMT -6
Boy if the Hawks snag Doncic 3rd, isn't that a worst case scenario for the Bulls? It would then likely go: 3. Doncic 4. Porter Jr 5. Bamba 6. Young 7. Bulls pick. Jaren "Tyrus Thomas" Jackson or Wendell Carter Jr. Yuck. versus what I thought was going to happen: 3. Jackson 4. Doncic 5. Bamba 6. Young 7. Porter the idea of getting mad thinking about the bulls having the opportunity to draft an 18-year-old 3 + D center instead of a dude with a broken back and no peripheral skills beyond scoring is pretty funny to me |
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Post by Blue42 on Jun 20, 2018 18:44:07 GMT -6
I, for one, will be pretty pumped if the Bulls are somehow able to draft Triple J. Seems like an ideal fit next to Lauri and the type of center you need to succeed in today's NBA.
Also, I understand why people shit on Tyrus Thomas. But if he had come along 10 years later, he'd probably be an awesome small ball 4/5 today. He was a prototypical "tweener," which was a bad thing back in 2006. Today, "tweener" is basically synonymous with "switchy" and "versatile."
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Post by Tweet on Jun 21, 2018 8:23:57 GMT -6
Grizzles are shopping the #4 pick, I assume because nobody wants to go to Memphis
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Post by Blue42 on Jun 21, 2018 8:32:12 GMT -6
Grizzles are shopping the #4 pick, I assume because nobody wants to go to Memphis That’s also the only way they can get out of the Parsons deal. I’ve seen things like Hardaway and #9 going there for Parsons and #4. The Knicks would be moving up for Bamba in that scenario. EDIT: I’m also seeing a similar deal with Orlando is being discussed. But understandably, Memphis would want Evan Fournier as the Orlando salary coming back, while Orlando would prefer to include Biyombo’s shitty contract. In either scenario, Memphis is said to be targeting Wendell Carter, who would be a reach at #4. |
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Post by iasm on Jun 21, 2018 14:05:50 GMT -6
KC from the Trib has the Bulls prioritizing Bamba, but also that they see Bagley as a good fit? I don't think he pairs with Lauri at all.
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Post by Blue42 on Jun 21, 2018 14:14:46 GMT -6
KC from the Trib has the Bulls prioritizing Bamba, but also that they see Bagley as a good fit? I don't think he pairs with Lauri at all.
Yeah, I hate the Bagley fit with Lauri.
It's weird because I keep hearing the Knicks are targeting Bamba as well, but doesn't Bagley actually make a lot more sense for the Knicks than Bamba? They can basically have Porzingis protect the rim on the defensive end, while stretching the floor on offense for Bagley to operate inside.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 14:25:17 GMT -6
Yeah you're right I'm shocked that the Knicks and Bulls are both prepared to make terrible decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 15:02:14 GMT -6
The Mavericks, Bulls, Cavaliers, and Clippers are among the teams still exploring the possibility of moving up in the draft lottery, league sources tell ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski (Twitter link). Wojnarowski adds that the Sixers‘ pick (No. 10) is in play for teams targeting Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.
Wojnarowski currently believes that Deandre Ayton (Suns), Marvin Bagley III (Kings), Luka Doncic (Hawks), Jaren Jackson Jr., Mohamed Bamba (Mavericks), and Trae Young (Magic) are the most likely selections (Twitter link). Interestingly, the Grizzlies are the only team Wojnarowski doesn’t mention in his rundown, suggesting the No. 4 pick is still the most likely selection at the top to be traded.
If the top six plays out like that and Chicago doesn’t trade up, the Bulls would likely opt for Wendell Carter Jr. over Michael Porter Jr., tweets K.C. Johnson of The Chicago Tribune.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 15:02:37 GMT -6
Scoots beat me to most of that haha
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 15:09:46 GMT -6
I think they should probably trade out of the top 10 if those are their two best options, but meh.
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Post by Tweet on Jun 21, 2018 15:15:28 GMT -6
It's the Kings! The Kings are going to mess this up the worst |
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Post by postfontaine on Jun 21, 2018 15:24:42 GMT -6
It's the Kings! The Kings are going to mess this up the worst Word going around is that Bagley is the only top prospect who isn't actively resisting going to the Kings, which is a primary motivating factor in why the Kings want him. But also, yes they are very much messing this up. |
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Post by andrewvb on Jun 21, 2018 15:25:34 GMT -6
how are the kings not taking doncic
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Post by postfontaine on Jun 21, 2018 15:31:18 GMT -6
He apparently won't work out for them or give them his medicals. Also, I guess Vlade's been shit talking him for like a year? It's honestly ridiculous. But shout out to the Hawks if they actually make that pick. Good move to get the best guy with the third pick, if the first two teams are gonna fuck it up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 15:33:10 GMT -6
I think they should probably trade out of the top 10 if those are their two best options, but meh. Wendell has grown on me. Porter only falls to 7 if there's big red flags with medical. I do agree though that trading down (especially via Clippers) may not be a bad idea. I'm hoping they trade up for Bamba or Doncic (ideally him). |
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Post by Tweet on Jun 21, 2018 15:36:22 GMT -6
I think they should probably trade out of the top 10 if those are their two best options, but meh. Wendell has grown on me. Porter only falls to 7 if there's big red flags with medical. The man has a messed up back and compared himself to Tracy McGrady how are there not big obvious red flags |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 15:38:32 GMT -6
Heard two dudes from Yahoo sports on the score last week and both said if he's there at 7, he's got long term health issues.
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Post by Blue42 on Jun 21, 2018 16:15:46 GMT -6
I think they should probably trade out of the top 10 if those are their two best options, but meh. Wendell has grown on me. Porter only falls to 7 if there's big red flags with medical. I do agree though that trading down (especially via Clippers) may not be a bad idea. I'm hoping they trade up for Bamba or Doncic (ideally him).
Serious question: Has there ever been a big man out of Duke who wasn't a complete flop?
I guess you'd have to go back to Brand and Boozer (if you count him).
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Post by teekoh on Jun 21, 2018 16:35:50 GMT -6
Wendell has grown on me. Porter only falls to 7 if there's big red flags with medical. I do agree though that trading down (especially via Clippers) may not be a bad idea. I'm hoping they trade up for Bamba or Doncic (ideally him).
Serious question: Has there ever been a big man out of Duke who wasn't a complete flop?
I guess you'd have to go back to Brand and Boozer (if you count him).
Those are both pretty good dudes. Who has there been since then other than Okafor? Probably been a ton, but I honestly can’t thibk of any off the top of my head. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 16:37:51 GMT -6
If 6'9 is considered a "big" then Luol Deng in 2004, too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 16:38:33 GMT -6
Justise Winslow has flopped. The Plumlees have had a decent career, I guess? There's a couple more. Duke primarily gets guards drafted high.
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Post by Blue42 on Jun 21, 2018 16:42:56 GMT -6
Justise Winslow has flopped. The Plumlees have had a decent career, I guess? There's a couple more. Duke primarily gets guards drafted high.
Yeah, I know there are exceptions to every rule. But Duke has typically been really productive in terms of guards, but much less so for big men.
Conversely, almost every big from Texas seems to pan out very well... Jarrett Allen, Aldridge, Myles Turner, Tristan Thompson... even Chris Mihm had a relatively long NBA career.
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Post by postfontaine on Jun 21, 2018 17:45:25 GMT -6
Wow, Mavs getting Doncic apparently?
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Post by iasm on Jun 21, 2018 18:07:09 GMT -6
Mad once again that the Bulls messed up the tank so badly.
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