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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 19:14:05 GMT -6
New Suns unis are dope af, imo...
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Post by dij22 on Aug 22, 2017 16:04:17 GMT -6
This is a super logical trade for both sides, but I can't imagine it actually happening:
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Post by dij22 on Aug 22, 2017 17:26:05 GMT -6
Wow Cleveland got a haul.
Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic, AND the 2018 Brooklyn pick.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 17:29:44 GMT -6
Weird trade. I don't think it makes Boston any better. Cleveland now has depth.
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Post by cardi bqtrain on Aug 22, 2017 17:50:01 GMT -6
yeah the only thing Boston gets is an extra contract year on a similar caliber, excessively one-way point guard
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Post by concertgoer on Aug 22, 2017 17:57:03 GMT -6
Looks like a good trade for Cleveland Though Irving is three years younger than Thomas so IDK
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Post by Blue42 on Aug 22, 2017 18:20:34 GMT -6
This trade basically tells me one of two things:
1. Thomas's hip injury is worse than we thought, and he's more or less a throw-in on a trade that's centered on that Brooklyn pick.
2. The Celtics knew they didn't want to pay Thomas long-term.
But yeah, Cleveland got a haul, especially when you look at what Sacramento, Chicago and Indiana got for their stars. Cleveland looks deep, and Boston has a nice looking starting 5 but absolutely no depth.
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Post by dij22 on Aug 22, 2017 18:30:20 GMT -6
yeah the only thing Boston gets is an extra contract year on a similar caliber, excessively one-way point guard Kyrie is a guy you would actually feel comfortable giving a max extension to though.
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Post by concertgoer on Aug 22, 2017 18:32:34 GMT -6
Boston still ends up with a top pick next year if the Lakers pick is between 2 and 5. Overall I think it's a good deal for both teams. Lebron's probably leaving Cleveland after next year so this gives them some assests for the future and it sets up Boston to be the dominate team in the East after next season.
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Post by rango420 on Aug 22, 2017 18:32:37 GMT -6
Cavs gonna get the #1 pick in the draft, Bulls are gonna get the #7 pick and than the bulls organization will declare bankruptcy
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Post by dij22 on Aug 22, 2017 18:41:13 GMT -6
Cavs gonna get the #1 pick in the draft, Bulls are gonna get the #7 pick and than the bulls organization will declare bankruptcy It would be so funny if the Bulls buyout Wade, he goes to the Cavs, and they still get a better pick.
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Post by totally on Aug 22, 2017 19:24:12 GMT -6
just wanted to say: fuck danny ainge come on how could you not beat the butler package if you were willing to do this trade
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Post by iasm on Aug 22, 2017 21:28:00 GMT -6
Cavs gonna get the #1 pick in the draft, Bulls are gonna get the #7 pick and than the bulls organization will declare bankruptcy Prime position to draft Grayson Allen
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 12:50:01 GMT -6
Post trade, the Celtics look pretty thin as a roster while Cleveland looks crazy deep.
Looking at Cleveland's roster:
PF Kevin Love / Channing Frye / Ante Zizic SF LeBron James / Jae Crowder / Richard Jefferson / Jeff Green C Tristan Thompson / Edy Tavares SG JR Smith / Kyle Korver / Iman Shumpert PG Isaiah Thomas / Derrick Rose / Jose Calderon
Icing on the cake is that if they indeed need more, they have that Brooklyn pick they can flip for another key piece.
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Post by Blue42 on Aug 23, 2017 13:47:24 GMT -6
Cleveland currently has 17 people on their roster. So I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to package 2-3 players and that pick for another stud.
If I were them, I'd probably try to put together Shumpert and Frye (expiring) with that Booklyn pick for someone on a shitty team. Maybe you'd be able to get a guy like Marc Gasol or DeAndre Jordan if one of those teams decides to blow it up.
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Post by dij22 on Aug 23, 2017 13:51:52 GMT -6
They can't play Thompson and Love at the same time as it is, so I can't see them trading for another big.
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Post by cardi bqtrain on Aug 23, 2017 13:58:10 GMT -6
It's hard for me to see Cleveland moving that Brooklyn pick without some kind of guarantee Lebron isn't bolting in the off-season
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Post by regionrat6337 on Aug 23, 2017 14:00:24 GMT -6
Maybe they could move that pick and shumpert/another player for Boogie
Thomas/JR/Lebron/Love/Boogie
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Post by cardi bqtrain on Aug 23, 2017 14:05:00 GMT -6
I never really understood why Irving for Boogie wasn't a thing. Cleveland doesn't need a point guard because Lebron. Boogie has a lot of redundancy with Davis and they could use a PG upgrade.
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Post by dij22 on Aug 23, 2017 14:06:06 GMT -6
That would be a horrendous trade for the Cavs. LeBron is basically a 4 now so you're pushing Love and Thompson to the bench. Unless it's Anthony Davis or something, literally the last thing the Cavs need is another expensive big.
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Post by cardi bqtrain on Aug 23, 2017 14:22:05 GMT -6
I feel like they could get by fine with a Lebron/Love/Cousins front line. Lebron doing PG stuff, Love can 3 and rebound, Cousins down low.
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Post by Blue42 on Aug 23, 2017 14:26:56 GMT -6
Supposedly the next best deal for Kyrie was the Bucks with Middleton, Brogdon and a first rounder. I almost like that trade as much as the Celtics deal, but the Brooklyn pick puts Boston over the top.
And yeah, I didn't specifically mean the Cavs should target a center in a trade. I was just talking about that type of veteran guy on an otherwise shitty/mediocre team that should start looking to rebuild. CJ McCollum or Nicolas Batum are other guys who I had in mind.
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Post by cardi bqtrain on Aug 31, 2017 15:49:35 GMT -6
the rebuild without draft picks continues
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 15:56:04 GMT -6
Cameron Payne fractured a bone in his foot and is going to have surgery next week. This is getting off to a great start.
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Post by teekoh on Aug 31, 2017 15:56:58 GMT -6
That's actually great news. Hopefully they can cut him at some point.
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Post by sthubbins on Aug 31, 2017 15:57:04 GMT -6
can't wait to be disappointed by the sixers this year
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Post by rango420 on Aug 31, 2017 15:58:40 GMT -6
That's actually great news. Hopefully they can cut him at some point. I believe he is on the last year of his contract with an extension option so it doesn't really do much
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Post by teekoh on Aug 31, 2017 16:01:25 GMT -6
I just don't want to watch him play basketball. Solves that problem.
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Post by rango420 on Aug 31, 2017 16:02:23 GMT -6
tough but fair. this bulls team is really a nightmare
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Post by cardi bqtrain on Aug 31, 2017 16:11:21 GMT -6
apparently Markkanen led a solid comeback for Finland in today's Eurobasket 2017 game
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