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Post by teekoh on Apr 2, 2020 7:55:07 GMT -6
Nooooooo
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 9:21:17 GMT -6
He was a good dude. I remember meeting him at Sox Fest when I was a kid and he patiently listened to me ramble about being excited about seeing Frank and Robin.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 9:31:38 GMT -6
This video is worth a watch.
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Post by dij22 on Apr 6, 2020 20:03:29 GMT -6
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Post by facts on Apr 6, 2020 20:11:48 GMT -6
I feel like they're just throwing out ideas while they wait. While most of the rest of us can WFH to some extent, the guys in charge of a multi billion dollar business have nothing to do right now but cook up wild ideas.
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Post by Pale Hose on Apr 6, 2020 20:30:51 GMT -6
Pretty sure they'll play in Arizona if it means they can collect even a pro-rated portion of their salaries. Even spring training facilities are pretty darn posh nowadays. There's certainly much worse ways to earn a living. |
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Post by dij22 on Apr 6, 2020 20:32:31 GMT -6
I just cooked up a big dumb wild idea. Each division has a host city where every team from that division is "quarantined". So every AL Central team plays in Minneapolis or something in an empty stadium.
Then each team plays each division opponent like 15 times or something for a total of 60 games. Then each division winner advances to the playoffs, no wild card teams. 8 playoff teams play at a neutral site. Probably could do all this September-November. Bing bang boom.
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Post by fiveiron83321 on Apr 6, 2020 20:38:40 GMT -6
I just cooked up a big dumb wild idea. Each division has a host city where every team from that division is "quarantined". So every AL Central team plays in Minneapolis or something in an empty stadium. Then each team plays each division opponent like 15 times or something for a total of 60 games. Then each division winner advances to the playoffs, no wild card teams. 8 playoff teams play at a neutral site. Probably could do all this September-November. Bing bang boom. 3 divisions in each league my guy gonna need at least 1 WC |
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Post by dij22 on Apr 6, 2020 20:44:18 GMT -6
Dammit my brain is soup
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 20:47:11 GMT -6
They're basing this on an idea for the Premier League to do something similar, and that's apparently already dead in the water:
The Independent, a British web site, touched on the possibility of the Premier League serving a similar purpose in England, saying the entertainment aspect “has drawn increased government backing, too, as they like the idea of the population engrossed in the national sport, especially in the event that lockdown measures are tightened or extended.”
The Athletic, however, reported Thursday that the plan to play the Premier League’s remaining 92 games at a World Cup-style base might be “unworkable in reality,” citing compromises to the integrity of competition because of teams losing home games and the difficulty of guaranteeing the health of workers.
The latter concern would be the most significant for baseball. To play under quarantine, the sport would need to protect the health not only of players and other club personnel, but also umpires and those producing the television broadcasts, plus hotel workers, bus drivers and anyone else involved with the players and games.
“Your margin of error is so small,” one baseball official said.
As an example, the official cited the possibility of a hotel worker going home, catching the virus and bringing it back into the baseball environment the next day. The effect might be similar to what occurs on a cruise ship. Infections would spread rapidly, and the sport again would need to shut down.
Diverting resources from health care would be another concern. Baseball would need to conduct wide-ranging testing for the virus, isolate anyone who gets sick and provide proper medical attention. Such an effort would require outside assistance, the kind of resources the league could not justify drawing away from the general population in the middle of a public health crisis.
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Post by facts on Apr 6, 2020 21:15:35 GMT -6
I just keep coming back to what the expectations are going to be once we get past the curve IRL. If we go back to work does that mean that work shuts down for 2 weeks if someone gets it again? Does CTA shutdown? My expectation has kind of been that at a certain point people are going to give it a go. Problem with MLB is that it's so visible and they cant afford the bad optics
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 21:24:39 GMT -6
I think it's all about testing at that point - there was a figure I read in the NYT that in order for us to reliably know who is infected and who is not we need the capacity for 750k tests per day, and we're nowhere near that. If testing becomes more readily available and results can consistently be turned around in minutes, we can more effectively isolate the disease.
But before that I don't think any league starts back up.
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Post by facts on Apr 6, 2020 21:29:27 GMT -6
That's fair - and assume we can get that and assuming that we are talking empty arenas, what happens when someone tests positive? Does it all shut down or is just that person out? I've seen speculation but it seems unclear. If it's the former then it seems like they can't play until theres a vaccine. And it would seem sike pro sports will be held to a higher standard than most other places
I just can't get my head around it
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Post by Pale Hose on Apr 6, 2020 21:45:21 GMT -6
Let's see what happens in the KBO.
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Post by facts on Apr 6, 2020 23:03:49 GMT -6
Passan is all over this now and it sounds like maybe this could actually be a thing. May start seems wild but would be very into this
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Post by dij22 on Apr 6, 2020 23:49:12 GMT -6
Passan is all over this now and it sounds like maybe this could actually be a thing. May start seems wild but would be very into this That article was super interesting but the details just made me sad. Everyone involved with the team would basically just go from the hotel to the stadium for four months and not see their families. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 6:33:32 GMT -6
I just read that Passan article. I love baseball and want it back, but this is super depressing and should not happen.
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Post by venom on Apr 7, 2020 7:42:27 GMT -6
i don't think there's any way this is executed well. some players will absolutely balk at it. there are a handful of players who won't even play in denver because of medical conditions. so do you let them sit out the whole season? do they still get paid? what happens when there's another outbreak in the phoenix area after things have seemingly calmed down?
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Post by fancypants on Apr 7, 2020 7:43:04 GMT -6
I mean what a sign of hope to the country if they were playing though. In a unique way I'd see it as a service to the country and so should everyone else. In that light 4 months is worth it and I'm sure they could work it out to see their families with testing.
I also see how some of you view it as sad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 8:04:58 GMT -6
It's not just players and coaches that would have to be away from their families for 4 months. That's bad enough. We're talking hotel workers, drivers, clubhouse attendants, drug testers - everyone who is required to make this happen would have to quarantine/isolate themselves to make this work. You start making exceptions to that for anyone and it cascades. How much testing would it require to make exceptions? Just so much about this makes it a very terrible idea.
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Post by facts on Apr 7, 2020 8:14:36 GMT -6
I've seen in a few places that one positive test would NOT be enough to shut it all down in this Arizona scenario, which is interesting if true.
I get the family aspect. I would think that players would be allowed to stay home but probably unpaid and it would count against service time.
This same thing is going to play out everywhere in a lot of different ways once the curve has been flattened. I've always assumed that there is like a year of new normal before the vaccine comes where we essentially go back to the world not really being able to stop potential exposure.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 8:37:02 GMT -6
I was at this game!
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Post by facts on Apr 7, 2020 8:51:05 GMT -6
It feels gross because MLB owners are uniformly the worst people on earth - but I've seen the argument both ways this morning. If you have gotten paid in FA and are established - you may or may not want to do this. If you're still in arbitration you're probably not set up to go a year without a paycheck.
It's pretty gross all around
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Post by Tweet on Apr 7, 2020 8:59:04 GMT -6
I mean what a sign of hope to the country if they were playing though. In a unique way I'd see it as a service to the country and so should everyone else. In that light 4 months is worth it and I'm sure they could work it out to see their families with testing. I also see how some of you view it as sad. Exactly but you bet your ass people will watch their local teams at 11pm at night if this gives us even a chance of making this all work |
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Post by dij22 on Apr 10, 2020 9:33:47 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 9:47:07 GMT -6
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Post by Tweet on Apr 10, 2020 9:58:53 GMT -6
Good on Happ for finding a way not to get sent back to Triple A this season
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Post by Pale Hose on Apr 10, 2020 10:03:42 GMT -6
This makes me think Bud Selig still has power somehow. |
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Post by facts on Apr 10, 2020 10:12:48 GMT -6
I can't take this one too seriously if Tony LaRussa is one of the main sources.
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Post by facts on Apr 15, 2020 8:54:43 GMT -6
www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/04/anthony-fauci-on-new-rules-of-living-with-coronavirus“If you could get on television, Major League Baseball, to start July 4. Let’s say, nobody comes to the stadium. You just, you do it. I mean people say, “Well you can’t play without spectators.” Well, I think you’d probably get enough buy-in from people who are dying to see a baseball game. Particularly me. I’m living in Washington. We have the World Champion Washington Nationals. You know, I want to see them play again."
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