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Post by monasterymonochrome on Jan 7, 2022 10:50:19 GMT -6
Also, I love our parents, but Boomers already get to decide everything else in this country. They don't have to swing this issue too.
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Post by scoots on Jan 7, 2022 10:51:10 GMT -6
Gonna listen to some Grizzly Bear and pretend that you guys aren't shitting on one of my favorite bands.
*harrumph*
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Jan 7, 2022 10:51:24 GMT -6
I mean maybe it is Outkast? Both widely beloved and the greatness is there...I never saw them but are they a great live act? wait they are Nirvana contemporaries though first record came out after kurt died so i think they count sticking with it as my real answer, i think they're probably at the best cross-section of "biggest" and "most important" and "still relevant" even though they broke up. i think outkast probaby gets twice as much play as the white stripes between tv / radio |
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Post by scoots on Jan 7, 2022 10:51:42 GMT -6
My mom loves Carrie Underwood. She's obviously the correct answer.
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Post by neader on Jan 7, 2022 10:51:58 GMT -6
Feel like Bon Iver is a worthy contender.
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Jan 7, 2022 10:52:16 GMT -6
gnarls barkley is waiting in the lobby
admit?
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Post by monasterymonochrome on Jan 7, 2022 10:54:26 GMT -6
I keep coming back to Fleet Foxes, too, for consistency, longevity, and live show, though the broad appeal qualifier probably fails. Now that's a band I didn't expect to come up here, but it's interesting to think about. Their sound isn't exactly in vogue, but their influence was huge, and their records are all killer. Do they get credit for launching FJM? They certainly stand their ground with other contenders primarily from the 2010s. Who else is part of that fight? Vampire Weekend? |
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Post by clouddead on Jan 7, 2022 10:54:31 GMT -6
Linkin Park
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Post by neader on Jan 7, 2022 10:55:17 GMT -6
I keep coming back to Fleet Foxes, too, for consistency, longevity, and live show, though the broad appeal qualifier probably fails. Now that's a band I didn't expect to come up here, but it's interesting to think about. Their sound isn't exactly in vogue, but their influence was huge, and their records are all killer. Do they get credit for launching FJM? They certainly stand their ground with other contenders primarily from the 2010s. Who else is part of that fight? Vampire Weekend? Was their influence huge? I was thinking Vampire Weekend too but I don't really think they've been influential either. See: my last post. |
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Post by scoots on Jan 7, 2022 10:55:59 GMT -6
VW have been influential with bands wanting their songs used in car commercials.
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Post by venom on Jan 7, 2022 10:56:01 GMT -6
Also, this is random but I always forget that the Walkmen are American. I've read Meet Me In The Bathroom and everything, but they just seem very British to me for some reason. Interpol gives me UK vibes too lmao. I know they’re a “New York band” but my Midwestern sensibilities often make me think that since they seem like assholes The Strokes are from the UK when Is This It came out, i lobbied to book the strokes at my college and the guy who made the decisions said "no one's coming to see a british band in rural pennsylvania." i rolled my eyes and was off the committee the next semester. but, hey, they got about 60 people to see the badlees instead. |
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Post by kb on Jan 7, 2022 10:56:35 GMT -6
top 3 100% has to be strokes, outkast, white stripes.
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Post by monasterymonochrome on Jan 7, 2022 10:56:36 GMT -6
VW have been influential with bands wanting their songs used in car commercials. This is Black Keys erasure, smh |
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Post by scoots on Jan 7, 2022 10:57:30 GMT -6
VW have been influential with bands wanting their songs used in car commercials. This is Black Keys erasure, smh I'd prefer to pretend The Black Keys do not exist, thank you very much. KINGS OF LEON |
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Post by monasterymonochrome on Jan 7, 2022 10:57:54 GMT -6
Now that's a band I didn't expect to come up here, but it's interesting to think about. Their sound isn't exactly in vogue, but their influence was huge, and their records are all killer. Do they get credit for launching FJM? They certainly stand their ground with other contenders primarily from the 2010s. Who else is part of that fight? Vampire Weekend? Was their influence huge? I was thinking Vampire Weekend too but I don't really think they've been influential either. See: my last post. It was already bubbling, but I credit them a bit for presaging that folk-boom that took hold of the early 2010s. That sound has def faded since tho. |
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Post by neader on Jan 7, 2022 10:58:05 GMT -6
Oh OFWGKTA def. Case closed.
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Post by thebosma on Jan 7, 2022 10:59:04 GMT -6
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Post by monasterymonochrome on Jan 7, 2022 11:01:13 GMT -6
top 3 100% has to be strokes, outkast, white stripes. If I'm thinking objectively, it's hard to push back against this. But! I still think that current live show should factor into this in some way - which is why I keep returning to Wilco, my original answer. They haven't put out a real essential album in a decade-plus, but they continually play killer live shows, pay homage and boost legends (Tweedy's work w/ Mavis Staples and Daniel Johnston), host their own festivals / cultivate a fan community, and do have records that are inducted into the canon of Great American Albums, even if those are 20 years old now. I'd boot the Strokes for them, personally. |
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Post by monasterymonochrome on Jan 7, 2022 11:02:53 GMT -6
Oh OFWGKTA def. Case closed. I mean, if you can subsume Tyler, Earl, Frank, and Syd's solo careers under them - then they almost have to be in the inner circle of this debate. But idk if it ought to work that way. |
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Post by mookie on Jan 7, 2022 11:03:18 GMT -6
I was going to say the correct answer is Fig Dish, but they were technically part of the Nirvana era, so I guess they can't win due to that.
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Post by clouddead on Jan 7, 2022 11:04:17 GMT -6
I was going to say the correct answer is Fig Dish, but they were technically part of the Nirvana era, so I guess they can't win due to that. Also because they’re Fig Dish |
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Post by thebosma on Jan 7, 2022 11:04:45 GMT -6
Oh OFWGKTA def. Case closed. I mean, if you can subsume Tyler, Earl, Frank, and Syd's solo careers under them - then they almost have to be in the inner circle of this debate. But idk if it ought to work that way. I think it probably did influence a really cool and fun era of rap. Tough to say whether that would have happened without them or not but I think they’re in contention for that |
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Post by kb on Jan 7, 2022 11:05:34 GMT -6
the strokes had a nirvana-like impact on rawk music, tho. maybe not as big of an impact, but still.
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Post by teekoh on Jan 7, 2022 11:05:38 GMT -6
Was their influence huge? I was thinking Vampire Weekend too but I don't really think they've been influential either. See: my last post. It was already bubbling, but I credit them a bit for presaging that folk-boom that took hold of the early 2010s. That sound has def faded since tho. And I think you can credit some of the acceptance/resurgence of jam vibes to them, too, even if they haven't really gone hard in that direction themselves. |
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Post by thebosma on Jan 7, 2022 11:06:22 GMT -6
the strokes had a nirvana-like impact on rawk music, tho. maybe not as big of an impact, but still. I understand that this might be your take but try not to give this one to neader |
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Post by monasterymonochrome on Jan 7, 2022 11:06:33 GMT -6
It was already bubbling, but I credit them a bit for presaging that folk-boom that took hold of the early 2010s. That sound has def faded since tho. And I think you can credit some of the acceptance/resurgence of jam vibes to them, too, even if they haven't really gone hard in that direction themselves. The greatest American band post-Nirvana is Dead & Company. Next question. |
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Post by neader on Jan 7, 2022 11:06:52 GMT -6
Oh OFWGKTA def. Case closed. I mean, if you can subsume Tyler, Earl, Frank, and Syd's solo careers under them - then they almost have to be in the inner circle of this debate. But idk if it ought to work that way. Even without that would still say a rag tag bunch of dudes breaking into the scene on their own as a collective and doing what they were doing. Not even about the music but in terms of style, image, personalities, etc. Odd Future feels like the first big act to come from what would become Soundcloud rappers and the first group to really use the Internet and social media in an effective way. Feels like they paved the way for almost every hip-hop act since. |
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Post by kb on Jan 7, 2022 11:07:43 GMT -6
the strokes had a nirvana-like impact on rawk music, tho. maybe not as big of an impact, but still. I understand that this might be your take but try not to give this one to neader where is fuckin neader gonna take this? |
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Post by monasterymonochrome on Jan 7, 2022 11:08:04 GMT -6
the strokes had a nirvana-like impact on rawk music, tho. maybe not as big of an impact, but still. I understand that this might be your take but try not to give this one to neader I'm such a curmudgeon for the last 15-years of their career, I almost think I'd include them in the top three had they broken up before/after Angles. |
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Post by monasterymonochrome on Jan 7, 2022 11:08:58 GMT -6
I mean, if you can subsume Tyler, Earl, Frank, and Syd's solo careers under them - then they almost have to be in the inner circle of this debate. But idk if it ought to work that way. Even without that would still say a rag tag bunch of dudes breaking into the scene on their own as a collective and doing what they were doing. Not even about the music but in terms of style, image, personalities, etc. Odd Future feels like the first big act to come from what would become Soundcloud rappers and the first group to really use the Internet and social media in an effective way. Feels like they paved the way for almost every hip-hop act since. This is a good argument. I think it's hard to find another group that was more important to the last decade of music, for sure. |
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