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Post by munkivelli on May 12, 2019 20:59:58 GMT -6
She went full on Mad Queen. That was set up pretty blatantly, she's been unraveling all season. Dany is now the final threat, the only question left is who is going to take her out? I would assume it has to either be Jon or Arya. My money is on Jon, it's gotta be Jon. But what color are the mad queen's eyes? |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 21:01:25 GMT -6
I feel like I'm rewatching season 6 of the walking dead where the writers just threw away all of their character building. Better than last week tho but not my much.
Kinda hoping thats not the end for Cersei tho I'm sure it is. Super disappointing. Blah.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 21:01:43 GMT -6
For someone who hasn't read the books, I always love that this show always manages to surprise me, even if it's not the outcome(s) I hoped for. They do/did have a lot of loose ends to tie up. Less loose ends now. <3
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 21:03:36 GMT -6
She went full on Mad Queen. That was set up pretty blatantly, she's been unraveling all season. Dany is now the final threat, the only question left is who is going to take her out? I would assume it has to either be Jon or Arya. My money is on Jon, it's gotta be Jon. Arya. She did after all ride away on the pale horse of death. |
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Post by munkivelli on May 12, 2019 21:12:32 GMT -6
My money is on Jon, it's gotta be Jon. Arya. She did after all ride away on the pale horse of death. According to the internet, Daenerys, like Cersei, has green eyes, so that would fulfill the prophecy. I agree that it's going to be Arya. |
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Post by neader on May 12, 2019 21:15:11 GMT -6
Nah, this is how he had the story ending, they are just doing it in a super rushed way because they ran out of time (and maybe money as well). HBO literally told D&D they could do more episodes and have more money but they thought they didn't need it to end the story. The last two seasons being 13 episodes was strictly their choice even though they had the option for more time. Presumably to get started on Star Wars and make more money. |
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Post by alady on May 12, 2019 21:22:02 GMT -6
For a show that's been nothing but gratuitous violence from the jump they sure wussed out on Cersei.
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Post by Pale Hose on May 12, 2019 21:24:02 GMT -6
Nah, this is how he had the story ending, they are just doing it in a super rushed way because they ran out of time (and maybe money as well). HBO literally told D&D they could do more episodes and have more money but they thought they didn't need it to end the story. The last two seasons being 13 episodes was strictly their choice even though they had the option for more time. Presumably to get started on Star Wars and make more money. If that's true they should have taken more time, and made a few more episodes. Where did you see/read that? |
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Post by neader on May 12, 2019 21:36:27 GMT -6
HBO literally told D&D they could do more episodes and have more money but they thought they didn't need it to end the story. The last two seasons being 13 episodes was strictly their choice even though they had the option for more time. Presumably to get started on Star Wars and make more money. If that's true they should have taken more time, and made a few more episodes. Where did you see/read that? I don't know how to hyperlink on mobile but www.google.com/amp/s/ew.com/tv/2019/04/09/game-of-thrones-season-8-showrunners-interview/amp/HBO would have been happy for the show to keep going, to have more episodes in the final season. We always believed it was about 73 hours, and it will be roughly that. As much as they wanted more, they understood that this is where the story ends. |
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Post by Pale Hose on May 12, 2019 21:41:10 GMT -6
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Post by munkivelli on May 12, 2019 21:43:14 GMT -6
At least he was a soldier for the losing team |
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Post by ultravisitor on May 12, 2019 21:43:52 GMT -6
For a show that's been nothing but gratuitous violence from the jump they sure wussed out on Cersei. I'm wondering if they wussed out because of all the criticism of the violence towards women. I mean, if so, I get that, but those other women were innocent characters. Cersei was really deserving of a much worse end than the sympathetic and romantic one that they gave her. |
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Post by Javo on May 12, 2019 22:01:14 GMT -6
So disappointing that Cersei died a victim! The writers actually made you feel bad about her! And Jamie deserved better IMHO.
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Post by teekoh on May 12, 2019 22:03:50 GMT -6
I had no problem with Cersei’s death. She dies anonymously, underground, surrounded by dragon corpses, unable to save her baby, and panicking in front of the only person whoever cared for her. A+
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 22:25:36 GMT -6
it was my favorite episode of the season but that's a very low bar
-dany going mad queen has been super telegraphed all season and is fine but they shouldve done more in previous seasons for it make more logical sense than just "oh once she saw the red keep in person, she just lost it!" like they said after the episode
-honestly the best ending to dany would be arya killing her wearing jon's face. logic and romance be damned at this point
-i liked cersei and jaime dying together but not having any sort of conflict over it and them just hugging in a pile of rubble is meh. this show isnt about justice so i dont care if she didnt get royally fucked up for all that she's done, but it didnt even really feel poetic or earned. jaime left winterfell without explaining what he was going to do to cersei so it's a bit lackluster to end that way
-thank god at least Euron got his shit fucked up wont get dragged into the finale.
-i've dreaded cleganebowl for a while now but it was okay. fun to watch but again antithetical to several personalities
-the whole season has been absolutely gorgeous. incredibly well shot and rendered battle tonight. the tracking shots with arya were maybe the best thing they've done in this show so far, from a visual standpoint
-tyrion is such fodder now and i cant see anything to do with him except have dany execute him now for letting jaime go and ooooof what a letdown for the most interesting character for 7 seasons. i guess the bronn thing is just gonna go unresolved which whatever
-i called varys dying like that a while back but they were heavily leaning on it last episode. it's fine but only under the season 8 rules of "everyone is fucking dumb now" because varys would've never done 99% of what he did this season in any other season as clunkily or as visibly as he did now. whatever. at least he outlasted littlefinger.
-boy howdy they are just NOT gonna touch Bran this season and bother to explain a goddamn thing are they? maybe for the best cause i cant imagine d&d actually know how to explain anything
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Post by Pale Hose on May 12, 2019 22:29:07 GMT -6
I'd be surprised if we don't see Bran next week.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 0:21:57 GMT -6
i mean we've seen him several times this season. and his powers havent done much (except arguably bait the night king, somehow) and he's explained nothing except repeat what we already knew to other characters off screen
i wonder if bran's visions of the mad king and his weird ability to affect the past is supposed to make dany mad in the books.
obv wont play out here at this point but that's my only guess that grrm might be going for if he has a vaguely similar ending
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 0:24:07 GMT -6
Brans probably gonna end up on the iron throne. Because that makes the most sense.
(It actually doesnt)
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Post by Xamnam on May 13, 2019 7:41:32 GMT -6
Bran's going to burst into Sansa's chambers next episode.
He's remembered a 400 year old recipe for banana pudding.
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Post by krentist on May 13, 2019 7:41:41 GMT -6
Boy oh boy have those two clowns fucking lost it. I am maybe amenable to the idea that Dany kills everyone because it's her only path to the throne. I do not buy at all that she'd do it for shits and giggles? And wtf was with Jaime's arc??? I guess he could have done a backslide but wow did they do a terrible job selling it. The way Varys got caught seems dumb and careless too. And i really wonder what the books will make of Tyrions brain damage. I think D&D really struggle with to write the smart characters now that they've moved beyond the source material.
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Post by krentist on May 13, 2019 7:48:40 GMT -6
Qyburn getting unceremoniously thrown down the stairs ruled, honestly. In a version of this show where the pacing is appropriate they for sure would've made stopped to make a very corny point about him being undone by his own creation but just having him get tossed in the trash was hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 7:57:13 GMT -6
definitely the best part of the episode for me.
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Post by teekoh on May 13, 2019 8:20:14 GMT -6
The way they've handled Tyrion is pretty easily the worst aspect of the last two seasons for me. It's really disappointing.
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Post by neader on May 13, 2019 8:22:07 GMT -6
The Hound, Yara, and Greyworm are the only characters that have actually stuck to their characterization and development in previous seasons. Everyone else is all over the place.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 8:27:01 GMT -6
Boy oh boy have those two clowns fucking lost it. I am maybe amenable to the idea that Dany kills everyone because it's her only path to the throne. I do not buy at all that she'd do it for shits and giggles? And wtf was with Jaime's arc??? I guess he could have done a backslide but wow did they do a terrible job selling it. The way Varys got caught seems dumb and careless too. And i really wonder what the books will make of Tyrions brain damage. I think D&D really struggle with to write the smart characters now that they've moved beyond the source material. the "Inside the Episode" segments afterwards have made this all look so much worse too apparently Dany decided to burn it all because she literally just saw the Red Keep in person for the first time and was so offended by its memory that it drove her mad. im not saying that idea cant work but nothing about the way it was editing or built up would have suggested it and D&D are pretty much just assume a single cut of Dany's face to the Red Keep will do the trick. i also honestly forgot about the Hound's fear of fire and him dying with his brother in a fiery pit because they kinda dropped that part of his character until it was convenient again (im pretty sure we mentioned how they forgot to do something with it for the battle at Winterfell and he just goes sprinting into some fiery areas no problem, but then has an existential breakdown when he sees icy zombies) |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 8:28:34 GMT -6
The Hound, Yara, and Greyworm are the only characters that have actually stuck to their characterization and development in previous seasons. Everyone else is all over the place. and that's only because they wrote Yara off double quick this season. "uhh yeah she took back the iron islands pretty easily." "oh good!" i actually like Greyworm going mad. that actually makes sense since he only had 1 person to fight for who's now gone. that could've been a great story had it not been rushed and jammed beneath Dany's weird arc |
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Post by neader on May 13, 2019 8:29:17 GMT -6
nothing is better than "while dany forgot about the iron fleet, they sure didn't forget about her."
yes, very common for people at war to forget her enemies exist.
i thought during the battle of winterfell the hound was freaking out over fire and then beric is like nah dude you gotta fight for arya and then he does.
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Post by teekoh on May 13, 2019 8:29:40 GMT -6
Nah, the Hound freaks out at Winterfell when they burn the trenches. That's what freezes him. I don't think he runs into any fiery areas.
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Post by neader on May 13, 2019 8:30:08 GMT -6
The Hound, Yara, and Greyworm are the only characters that have actually stuck to their characterization and development in previous seasons. Everyone else is all over the place. and that's only because they wrote Yara off double quick this season. "uhh yeah she took back the iron islands pretty easily." "oh good!" i actually like Greyworm going mad. that actually makes sense since he only had 1 person to fight for who's now gone. that could've been a great story had it not been rushed and jammed beneath Dany's weird arc that and he has always followed dany and listened to her orders. she goes mad, he goes mad with her. I buy that 100%. |
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Post by Xamnam on May 13, 2019 8:32:06 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't have an issue with where Dany ended up, it's been consistently suggested by her entire overall arc. It's the speed at which she got there, both within this season, and last night in particular that leaves it so unsatisfying.
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