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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 21:01:27 GMT -6
The Moustakas craze was confusing to me because the dude never gets on base and just isn't very good.
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Post by Pale Hose on Mar 8, 2018 21:02:02 GMT -6
Wow. Moose gets 1 year at 6.5M
How many times can Boras cost his client millions before players start dropping him?
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Post by Xamnam on Mar 8, 2018 21:15:50 GMT -6
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Post by Tweet on Mar 8, 2018 21:18:24 GMT -6
I don’t think I have sympathy for either of them
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Post by Pale Hose on Mar 8, 2018 21:29:29 GMT -6
It should be noted that CarGo is also a Boras client. |
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Post by fancypants on Mar 8, 2018 21:35:37 GMT -6
Surprised other non contending teams didn’t jump at these price points. At minimum they’re players that will be playing inspired and can be used as trade chips. And if don’t play well, you didn’t break the bank
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 22:34:22 GMT -6
Once it comes down to a one-year deal I don't think it's all that surprising that both decided to stay with the franchises they've been with for their entire careers.
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Post by dij22 on Mar 8, 2018 22:36:31 GMT -6
Once it comes down to a one-year deal I don't think it's all that surprising that both decided to stay with the franchises they've been with for their entire careers. So did I just hallucinate those FOUR HOME RUNS CarGo hit with the A's in 2008? |
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Post by Tweet on Mar 8, 2018 23:16:58 GMT -6
I mean I hallucinated scoot’s point
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 23:19:30 GMT -6
Staying with a team where you're comfortable for one year after long term deals didn't materialize and then testing the market again next year. Yup, crazy.
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Post by teekoh on Mar 9, 2018 9:19:50 GMT -6
I don't know about Moose, but it seems crazy that nobody else was willing to offer CarGo something similar to a 5-year deal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 9:23:57 GMT -6
I think he was actually the worst position player in baseball last season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 9:25:15 GMT -6
The truth, unfortunately, has been worse. As we sit here today, Gonzalez has posted a .278 wOBA / 50 wRC+ for the season. His wOBA is ninth-worst among qualified players; his wRC+ is second-worst. The only qualified position player who has been worse by wRC+ is Royals shortstop Alcides Escobar, who is at least able to couple good defense and baserunning to bring himself back up to replacement level. Gonzalez has done no such thing. By WAR, he has been the worst player in the majors, qualified or not, and it isn’t remotely closewww.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-collapse-of-carlos-gonzalez/It's nuts how far he dropped off last season.
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Post by teekoh on Mar 9, 2018 9:30:35 GMT -6
Jesus I had no idea. Nevermind then.
I admittedly didn't pay much attention to the Rockies last year, but from buzz and whatnot I thought he was still good.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 9:40:58 GMT -6
I figured an AL team would take a flier on him as a DH. He might bounce back a bit, and I think he actually did better over the course of the last month of the season, but his defense has become pretty abysmal. I'm guessing the Rockies plan on a platoon situation with him coming back.
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Post by facts on Mar 9, 2018 9:58:13 GMT -6
I think the comp pick killed Moose. A lot of the teams that would be interested at the right strike price weren't going to give up a pick.
But for the bargain basement DH shopper there's still Holliday and Joey Bats out there!
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Post by Xamnam on Mar 9, 2018 10:02:52 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 10:13:52 GMT -6
I think the comp pick killed Moose. A lot of the teams that would be interested at the right strike price weren't going to give up a pick. But for the bargain basement DH shopper there's still Holliday and Joey Bats out there! Well also the luxury tax and not many competitive teams in need of a 3B. He was just a free agent a year too late. |
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Post by Pale Hose on Mar 9, 2018 12:50:34 GMT -6
CarGo gets $8M. Not bad considering.
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Post by Pale Hose on Mar 9, 2018 16:32:41 GMT -6
Bargain bin shopping continues! Lucroy to the A's on a one year deal, no word on the dollars yet.
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Post by Pale Hose on Mar 10, 2018 11:41:31 GMT -6
Bargain bin shopping continues! Lucroy to the A's on a one year deal, no word on the dollars yet. This deal is also supposedly $6.5M. Seems to be the magic number. Also, apparently both Moose and CarGo turned down 3/45 deals (CarGo got his offer last year though), and Lucroy turned down a 3/21 offer from the Rockies. |
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Post by Pale Hose on Mar 10, 2018 12:28:29 GMT -6
White Sox prospect Luis Robert sprained a ligament in his thumb and is expected to be out for 10 weeks  |
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Post by dij22 on Mar 10, 2018 12:42:24 GMT -6
White Sox prospect Luis Robert sprained a ligament in his thumb and is expected to be out for 10 weeks God dammit |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 15:44:33 GMT -6
White Sox prospect Luis Robert sprained a ligament in his thumb and is expected to be out for 10 weeks Positive is he hit that grand slam with the injury. Sounds pretty precautionary. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 16:01:14 GMT -6
Meanwhile Giolito had 8 strikeouts in less than 5 innings against the Cubs today.
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Post by Pale Hose on Mar 10, 2018 16:10:15 GMT -6
Lance Lynn to the Twinkies. 1 year $12M.
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Post by Tweet on Mar 10, 2018 17:47:47 GMT -6
Lance Lynn to the Twinkies. 1 year $12M. I liked finding out that bartolo got more money than him |
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Post by Pale Hose on Mar 11, 2018 15:02:02 GMT -6
Sounds like Jake is going to the Phillies, curious to see how much he ends up getting.
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Post by Tweet on Mar 11, 2018 15:05:06 GMT -6
Sounds like Jake is going to the Phillies, curious to see how much he ends up getting. No word on money yet but it's a 3 year deal |
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Post by Pale Hose on Mar 11, 2018 15:09:09 GMT -6
Even if it's for a high AAV he's gonna end up with way less money than the Cubs had offered.
Scott Boras got his ass kicked this off-season and I love it.
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