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Post by Javo on Apr 24, 2018 17:18:13 GMT -6
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Post by Kamera on Apr 24, 2018 18:17:47 GMT -6
Actualol
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Post by irvred on Apr 24, 2018 18:44:37 GMT -6
I'm pretty pumped but Kevin Smith having a rave tweet means so little to me.
Who do we think they'll kill off? I feel like Cap and Iron Man have to go by the end of the whole 'Avengers' series
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Post by Javo on Apr 24, 2018 19:17:19 GMT -6
Maybe Captain, maybe Vision
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 19:20:25 GMT -6
vision and captain in part 1 hawkeye and iron man in part 2
i wouldve also guessed strange because of the time stone but apparently they're already making a doctor strange 2 that comes out after both infinity wars
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 19:20:44 GMT -6
I think Vision is a given bc of the mind stone. After watching the previous avenger movies, I could see the Hulk going. Really up the emotional tug. Stark would be my next guess.
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Post by wanny on Apr 24, 2018 21:01:34 GMT -6
Looks like it's been greating good reviews all day
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Post by llamaoftime on Apr 24, 2018 21:25:54 GMT -6
One of Cap or Stark dies in this movie and the other dies in the next. Vision seems obvious too.
I feel like they keep Hulk and Thor around. Maybe it's just because I want another Thor movie from Taiki but I feel like they keep at least one of the original core around heading into post-IW and Thor seems like a good bet for that
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 21:30:47 GMT -6
maybe reading too much into it but Thor, Thanos, and Gamora i think have the most listed screentime of all the characters in this one. granted a lot of that is probably related to Thanos' backstory and motivations.
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Post by claypoolfan on Apr 25, 2018 7:11:47 GMT -6
Hemsworth and Taiki have both talked about plotting Thor 4 together, that'll happen. Hemsworth also seems to be the most into playing his role out of anyone in the series.
Ruffalo I think is also signed on for at least a couple more movies.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 7:40:43 GMT -6
ugh Kimmel's had the cast on bit by bit this week and it's fucking killing me. didn't realize how hyped i was for it until last night when i finished civil war
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 8:34:32 GMT -6
Will anyone actually die though? My theory is Dr Strange ends up saving people in part 2 that die in part 1.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 8:36:06 GMT -6
only if strange still has the time stone. im sure thanos will come to earth with power, reality, and space, and will be able to acquire both time and mind by the end of part 1 so "undoing" the deaths in 2 will be virtually impossible. unless someone like a lover or family member can convince Thanos to undo it himself
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 8:37:05 GMT -6
also there's clips online of the black order speaking and apparently their voices are supposed to be pretty famous casting decisions but i dont immediately recognize them
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Post by neader on Apr 25, 2018 8:38:15 GMT -6
is this like the finale of the mcu/avengers?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 8:41:24 GMT -6
is this like the finale of the mcu/avengers? oh hell no.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 8:42:02 GMT -6
my spoiler bit? it's one of the many different endings in the comics. thanos is in love with the incarnation of Death (separate entity from Hela but the MCU could definitely make her the same person) and wants to devote himself entirely to her by destroying most of the universe a la the infinity stones.
it's only after he destroys most of the avengers -- i forgot who survives, im sure it's on wiki -- that they're able to appeal to Death to betray Thanos and retrieve the stones to undo everything. i dont think that's the way the MCU is going to go tho.
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Post by neader on Apr 25, 2018 8:43:10 GMT -6
is this like the finale of the mcu/avengers? oh hell no. it's called infinity war, what can they even name the next one that's bigger than a war that lasts for infinity?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 8:44:52 GMT -6
i'm curious/hesitant to see how the handle the stones if they're at full power by the end of 1 and all of 2. he can basically terraform and become omniscient, omnipresent, and see through all of time. so i feel that's not gonna be easy to portray on screen in a sensible fashion.
(i wasnt even a huge fan of how they handled the mind stone in a minor way in ultron)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 8:45:20 GMT -6
only if strange still has the time stone. im sure thanos will come to earth with power, reality, and space, and will be able to acquire both time and mind by the end of part 1 so "undoing" the deaths in 2 will be virtually impossible. unless someone like a lover or family member can convince Thanos to undo it himself Only putting this in spoiler by the mere chance I'm somehow correct (and this is a complete shot in the dark): My best guess is the only people to actually die are Nebula and/or Gamora. MAYBE Cap and Bucky takes over. My guess at how this is resolved is Hawkeye's arrow with Ant-Man attached to it. Once the stones are freed from Thanos, Dr Strange can use the time stone to undo most of the deaths prior. I'm also wondering if he (Strange) sends Avengers to alternate timelines to see which possibility will work to defeat him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 8:49:22 GMT -6
Vision is pretty much #1 on the hitlist since the mind stone is literally on his forehead and is the source of his power. at best, if he survives, he just becomes Jarvis again. but i suspect he ded.
i honestly think it'd be weirder if Cap and Tony don't die in either of these. they've both been on a chaotic spiral arc for 10 movies now, even against each other, and they're pretty much at the point where they have to die to save the world to prove their point. also i believe both heroes are infamous in the comic world for constantly having new humans take over the role in recent times.
if GotG 3 wasn't already greenlit, i'd guess that most of the Guardians would be expendable but now i think it might just be Gamora and Nebula on the chopping block as a last-ditch effort to appeal to their father to assassinate him. Drax will probably live even though his death could've been a really wild battle with the whole dead wife motivation.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 8:51:04 GMT -6
RDJ and Evans want out, so I think killing them off would be the easiest way to move on from the current versions of their characters.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 8:58:43 GMT -6
also there's clips online of the black order speaking and apparently their voices are supposed to be pretty famous casting decisions but i dont immediately recognize them ah Carrie Coon is Proxima Midnight Tom Vaughan-Lawler is Ebony Maw Terry Notary is Cull Obsidian no word on Corvus Glaive yet but everyone assumes that what Peter Dinklage's secret role is
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Post by Javo on Apr 25, 2018 8:59:33 GMT -6
I wonder if we'll get to see Captain Marvel...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 9:02:51 GMT -6
I wonder if we'll get to see Captain Marvel... i assume she'll be a stinger at the end of 1 and then play a major role in 2 after her solo movie comes out (which apparently actually takes place in the 90s so maybe it'll retroactively tie into the whole avengers story so when she appears in 2 it wont feel so jarring)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 9:07:35 GMT -6
I'll probably try to rewatch Civil War at some point this week. I didn't give it too much of a chance when I saw it the first time, but the Russo brothers performed admirably trying to juggle that many characters.
A lot of the reviews I've read for Infinity War have said it's good, but maybe too much. This honestly would be one of those scenarios where I wouldn't blame the studio for trying to stretch this out over maybe 3 movies instead of 2, but I guess the actors would not enjoy that much commitment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 9:13:23 GMT -6
my spoiler bit? it's one of the many different endings in the comics. thanos is in love with the incarnation of Death (separate entity from Hela but the MCU could definitely make her the same person) and wants to devote himself entirely to her by destroying most of the universe a la the infinity stones.
it's only after he destroys most of the avengers -- i forgot who survives, im sure it's on wiki -- that they're able to appeal to Death to betray Thanos and retrieve the stones to undo everything. i dont think that's the way the MCU is going to go tho. So in the original Infinity Gauntlet crossover from 1991: Thanos snaps his fingers and erases half the universe. Marvels best meet on his floating base and we see the demise of:
Cyclops, Scarlet Witch, Wolverine, Spider-Man, Thor (Eric Masterson, not the original), Hulk, Iron Man, and Nova (male)
and the last man standing is Captain America, who is seconds away from destruction when the Silver Surfer misses his mark and doesn't grab the gauntlet. Thanos slaps Cap away like he's nothing, not sure if that counts as a death.
This is all undone though when Nebula steals the gauntlet from Thanos while he's merging with Eternity.
I think they'll go this direction albeit w/o the floating base (but they do fight on Titan) and with less death. He literally dispatches of those heroes in gruesome ways that won't be appropriate for the film. The only survivors through this are the Silver Surfer, Adam Warlock, and Dr. Strange, tho once Nebula takes over and everyone is revived, Drax, Firelord, Hulk, and Thor are all present for the end.
Nebula is gets disintegrated by Thanos early on, but he keeps her alive on the brink of death as a trophy, which is ultimately his own undoing. I don't think they'll go this far, but I do think Nebula will play a larger role. Of course, they could do none of that, and make Part 1 all about finding some of the stones, and then part 2 him going after the rest. We still don't know the wherabouts of the Soul stone, tho Wakanda makes sense. Without Warlock (apparently he's scheduled for GOTG3), all of the original material's gonna need to be shuffled. Crossing my fingers for a Silver Surfer cameo in either film, but that's a longshot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 9:14:49 GMT -6
RDJ and Evans want out, so I think killing them off would be the easiest way to move on from the current versions of their characters. Evans is apparently signed on for a 4th avengers film. I think he's safe in this one, and he'll retire in the 4th and pass the mantle to Bucky.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 9:25:14 GMT -6
id personally like that gauntlet ending more but it's definitely a very morbid and dark depiction that i have a hard time seeing the producers give the green light.
there's also the possibility that between Strange, Captain Marvel, and Pym from Ant Man/Wasp that time travel is gonna become a very important feature in part 2 in which case who fucking knows. they might try to pull a Days of Futures Past and idk how i feel about that.
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Post by llamaoftime on Apr 26, 2018 9:55:14 GMT -6
The theater I'm going to here in California has 26 screenings of this movie tonight lol
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