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Post by sthubbins on Dec 19, 2019 9:35:06 GMT -6
Here are some artists that have been called the artist of the decade by major publications. which is correct?
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Post by Tweet on Dec 19, 2019 9:35:51 GMT -6
Is this a multiple choice poll?
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Post by neader on Dec 19, 2019 9:36:19 GMT -6
Neither of the two people I'd give it to are on that list lol.
Of those, I'd say Tyler.
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Post by sthubbins on Dec 19, 2019 9:37:11 GMT -6
up to me, I'd go with Young Thug but unfortunately he did not make the cut
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Post by Tweet on Dec 19, 2019 9:39:10 GMT -6
Of those listed, Kendrick is #1 far and away.
If we're gonna play the top 5 game with these, it looks something like:
Kendrick
beyonce
Jack Antonoff
Drake
Taylor Swift
Lin and Rihanna just miss the cut. Not familiar enough with Arca to place. All the others don't make any sense
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Post by neader on Dec 19, 2019 9:41:41 GMT -6
Even though it is in no way implied for some reason I always see Artist of the Decade as most influential, not the most critically acclaimed.
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Post by Tweet on Dec 19, 2019 9:42:54 GMT -6
Even though it is in no way implied for some reason I always see Artist of the Decade as most influential, not the most critically acclaimed. I mean that's kind of the way to look at it, no? And in that take the only true "correct" answers (of that list?) are either Kendrick or Beyonce |
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Post by Tweet on Dec 19, 2019 9:43:49 GMT -6
lol @ Krentist's troll vote for lil peep
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Post by Kamera on Dec 19, 2019 9:45:26 GMT -6
No St. Vincent? Shame.
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Post by jimmyrecard on Dec 19, 2019 9:46:31 GMT -6
It's a very vague thing to rank...but surely Taylor Swift or Beyonce have been the biggest, most popular artists of the decade by a long stretch? Ed Sheeran may be in there too.
'Best' artist of the decade is a very different story and obviously extremely subjective. We would all disagree on that I'm sure.
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Post by neader on Dec 19, 2019 9:47:44 GMT -6
Even though it is in no way implied for some reason I always see Artist of the Decade as most influential, not the most critically acclaimed. I mean that's kind of the way to look at it, no? And in that take the only true "correct" answers (of that list?) are either Kendrick or Beyonce Tyler led OFWGKTA into the mainstream, him, Frank, and Earl are huge now. OFWGKTA got white suburban kids into hip-hop like no one had except Eminem. That's why I chose him. If not him, I'd say Drake is #2, though I could easily be convinced to put him at #1. Kendrick is critically acclaimed but I don't see how he really has had a huge influence on the industry as a whole. |
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Post by Tweet on Dec 19, 2019 9:52:12 GMT -6
I mean that's kind of the way to look at it, no? And in that take the only true "correct" answers (of that list?) are either Kendrick or Beyonce Tyler led OFWGKTA into the mainstream, him, Frank, and Earl are huge now. OFWGKTA got white suburban kids into hip-hop like no one had except Eminem. That's why I chose him. If not him, I'd say Drake is #2, though I could easily be convinced to put him at #1. Kendrick is critically acclaimed but I don't see how he really has had a huge influence on the industry as a whole. Did you forget 2015 happened or nah Tyler had 2 dud albums before he became relevant again and one could argue Earl and Frank are more important at this point than him. Kanye, Drake, J Cole, and Logic also brought the whites into the mainstream rap again Edit: I can't count |
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Post by neader on Dec 19, 2019 9:54:03 GMT -6
Tyler led OFWGKTA into the mainstream, him, Frank, and Earl are huge now. OFWGKTA got white suburban kids into hip-hop like no one had except Eminem. That's why I chose him. If not him, I'd say Drake is #2, though I could easily be convinced to put him at #1. Kendrick is critically acclaimed but I don't see how he really has had a huge influence on the industry as a whole. Did you forget 2015 happened or nah Tyler had 3 dud albums before he became relevant again and one could argue Earl and Frank are more important at this point than him. Kanye, Drake, J Cole, and Logic also brought the whites into the mainstream rap again Yeah Frank and Kanye were the 2 I was referring to in my original post so not going to disagree that Frank is more important. I'd put Frank at #1. |
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 9:54:55 GMT -6
It's hard not to vote Beyonce here.
Ed Sheeran is not a bad second pick; I saw Ed Sheeran open a first-of-three bill to basically nobody in 2011 and he is now selling out football stadiums around the world - that glow-up over the course of the decade is unmatched, in the candidates listed.
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Post by Xamnam on Dec 19, 2019 9:58:28 GMT -6
If I can't vote for King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard what's even the point
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Post by wanny on Dec 19, 2019 10:16:15 GMT -6
Tobias is probably my most desirable answer, but not the correct one. I'd probably go with Beyonce or Ed
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Post by brainloading on Dec 19, 2019 10:16:18 GMT -6
Nick Cave not being on the list is beyond stupid
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Post by clouddead on Dec 19, 2019 10:17:42 GMT -6
Tyler led OFWGKTA into the mainstream, him, Frank, and Earl are huge now. OFWGKTA got white suburban kids into hip-hop like no one had except Eminem. That's why I chose him. If not him, I'd say Drake is #2, though I could easily be convinced to put him at #1. Kendrick is critically acclaimed but I don't see how he really has had a huge influence on the industry as a whole. Did you forget 2015 happened or nah Tyler had 2 dud albums before he became relevant again and one could argue Earl and Frank are more important at this point than him. Kanye, Drake, J Cole, and Logic also brought the whites into the mainstream rap again Edit: I can't count Thanks for this. I was thinking about this in the shower because it now takes me about 25 minutes to shower. No way Tyler brought hip hop back to the white masses. Were people alive when the Carter 3 dropped and you couldn’t go anywhere without hearing it? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 10:18:10 GMT -6
Some really strange choices on this list.
I'd say Angel Olsen had a pretty terrific decade.
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 10:19:34 GMT -6
just curious to gain a little perspective in this conversation:
im curious who your top artists of the 00s / 90s / 80s were, if you're answering the question. seeing opinions like "earl sweatshirt is huge" or even "why no nick cave" is blowing my mind.
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Post by Timbo on Dec 19, 2019 10:20:58 GMT -6
the discussion is definitely going to revolve around Beyonce, Kendrick, and Kanye. But I'd also say that Nick Cave (despite losing his son) had a pretty good decade creativity wise across his two projects. Justin Vernon did too. Took a small cabin project and turned it into an arena sized spectacle with a long list of collaborators.
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Post by Xamnam on Dec 19, 2019 10:22:29 GMT -6
just curious to gain a little perspective in this conversation: im curious who your top artists of the 00s / 90s / 80s were, if you're answering the question. seeing opinions like "earl sweatshirt is huge" or even "why no nick cave" is blowing my mind. How many times am I allowed to write Phish in |
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 10:23:07 GMT -6
Justin Vernon makes a certain amount of sense to me.
I am a bigger Nick Cave fan / appreciator but nothing about his '10-'20 decade stands out to me as being above his 80-90 or 90-00 or 00-10 outputs.
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Post by neader on Dec 19, 2019 10:23:42 GMT -6
00s - Kanye or The Strokes
90s - idk I heard Nirvana were a big deal?
80s - Michael Jackson? Madonna? Talking Heads?
70s - Bowie
60s - Beatles
Please don't @ me I'm not trying to get into a serious debate about any of these.
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 10:24:03 GMT -6
just curious to gain a little perspective in this conversation: im curious who your top artists of the 00s / 90s / 80s were, if you're answering the question. seeing opinions like "earl sweatshirt is huge" or even "why no nick cave" is blowing my mind. How many times am I allowed to write Phish in Phish is an extremely valid answer for the 90s. I don't know that I'd agree but I couldn't dispute it being on a ballot. |
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Post by dij22 on Dec 19, 2019 10:25:13 GMT -6
Big Thief
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Post by chvrchbarrel on Dec 19, 2019 10:26:13 GMT -6
00s - Kanye or The Strokes 90s - idk I heard Nirvana were a big deal? 80s - Michael Jackson? Madonna? Talking Heads? 70s - Bowie 60s - Beatles Please don't @ me I'm not trying to get into a serious debate about any of these. You are helping me prove a point though, and I'm sorry to use you as my example here, but look at the artists you listed above, off the top of your head, and then think about Earl Sweatshirt or even Frank Ocean. "Things that are important culturally" and "things that we deem actually good" are only small components of this question/answer IMO. Some of these acts put out good, even great, albums. Some of them absolutely ruled the decade. Big, big divide. |
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Post by Timbo on Dec 19, 2019 10:28:14 GMT -6
Nick Cave entered the decade sounding one way, and is ending it sounding completely different after some earth shattering tragedy. Not only did he craft some of his most heartfelt and gut wrenching music, he collaborated across the board, wrote scores, wrote books, I think he won a Grammy maybe?, and all of that was before his son died.
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Post by neader on Dec 19, 2019 10:29:25 GMT -6
Oh I don't consider Earl to be an artist of the decade by any means, he had an impact and I was just using that to explain why Tyler, by helping bring Earl up, can somewhat be seen as influential for that reason. Frank I do though. I can see the argument for Beyonce and Drake as well, but I'd give it to Frank *shrug*
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Post by Xamnam on Dec 19, 2019 10:29:53 GMT -6
00s - Kanye or The Strokes 90s - idk I heard Nirvana were a big deal? 80s - Michael Jackson? Madonna? Talking Heads? 70s - Bowie 60s - Beatles Please don't @ me I'm not trying to get into a serious debate about any of these. You are helping me prove a point though, and I'm sorry to use you as my example here, but look at the artists you listed above, off the top of your head, and then think about Earl Sweatshirt or even Frank Ocean. "Things that are important culturally" and "things that we deem actually good" are only small components of this question/answer IMO. Some of these acts put out good, even great, albums. Some of them absolutely ruled the decade. Big, big divide. The point's a fair one, but you also have to take into consideration the idea of a monoculture has absolutely shattered compared to those decades. |
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