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Post by Pale Hose on May 20, 2019 7:26:15 GMT -6
It's just kind of sad to me that a show that could get you up and pacing or clapping at times had none of those moments in the finale. It's so hard to end shows like this and fulfill everyone's expectations. For all of the shortcomings of the final season, I thought they did a good job with the finale. |
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Post by Xamnam on May 20, 2019 7:31:51 GMT -6
Like most of the last two seasons, where they got was fine, it was just the how.
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Post by Xamnam on May 20, 2019 7:33:45 GMT -6
Can't wait to read the books in thirty two years!
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Post by alady on May 20, 2019 7:40:49 GMT -6
I thought the ending was too pat and was only surprised by who was chosen for king. Did that make any sense in terms of who had the best claim for the throne based on lineage or whatever?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 7:48:22 GMT -6
I thought the ending was too pat and was only surprised by who was chosen for king. Did that make any sense in terms of who had the best claim for the throne based on lineage or whatever? Outside of Jon, Gendry probably has the best claim. He is the (now legitimized) son of Robert and, through his father, the great grandson of a Targaryen. So, no, I don't think it made sense but that would be asking too much at this point. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 7:51:45 GMT -6
Seems to me that the purpose of this season was to surprise everyone and make it unpredictable, regardless of it making any sense.
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Post by concertgoer on May 20, 2019 7:54:30 GMT -6
Why did they even need a king at this point ?
Each Kingdom could have just become independent
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Post by neader on May 20, 2019 7:55:13 GMT -6
Because they need good stories!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 7:58:54 GMT -6
Why did they even need a king at this point ? Each Kingdom could have just become independent I was hoping this is where they were going after Drogon destroyed the Iron Throne, but alas... |
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Post by wanny on May 20, 2019 8:15:34 GMT -6
Seems to me that the purpose of this season was to surprise everyone and make it unpredictable, regardless of it making any sense. Idk I mean I saw the ending coming the entire time. I figured they would end the full on it going "full circle" and that the wheel can never truly be broken because that's just the way people are in the universe |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 8:21:36 GMT -6
Why did they even need a king at this point ? Each Kingdom could have just become independent I was hoping this is where they were going after Drogon destroyed the Iron Throne, but alas... i think that's why im not a fan of almost any of this episode. the ENTIRE season with Tyrion's trial was hilariously out of character for every single person in the circle. there's a new fucking prince of Dorne sitting there, and that dude is just like "yeah we're cool with a Stark -- who has never had any claim or interest in the throne -- taking over everything."
Yara sure as shit didnt look okay with it but they had her say "aye" to Bran anyway for the sake of plot.
the whole resolution to the 6 + 1 kingdoms was a mess.
Drogon melts the throne, signifying the end of the monarchy (dragons are allegedly almost as smart as humans so fine, whatever)
Jon takes the fall as the man of honor like Ned but gets to take the black -- which, again, fine. whatever...although now that there's peace with the Wildlings and there's no WW, it's kinda weird that they even need a Wall/Night's Watch?
but then everyone else back at KL just does the same thing they always did. i dont mind the argument that "nothing changes" and we're creatures of habit, but it was SUCH a convenient and cute little full circle to have the new council arguing over brothels and such. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 8:24:56 GMT -6
also i'll never get over how terribly done everything with Bran has been for several season now and then they fact they just dropped him for several episodes post-Night King with NO explanation
and now the fucker is just ruling everyone because "he has the best memory."
because of conversations Tyrion and Bran had off-screen, allegedly. |
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Post by ultravisitor on May 20, 2019 8:25:37 GMT -6
Jon should have just told them all that Drogon picked up Dany and flew away with her and there was nothing he could do about it.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 8:32:57 GMT -6
it was also really jarring that after the first 20 minutes in which KL is ashes and the snow is starting to come in that it just jumps to several weeks later and everyone's like "welp time to rebuild!"
just feels like there are no real consequences to anything and even after a whole city burns, everyone's just back to work as usual.
also i get Sam doing the "There and Back Again" throwback with the Song of Ice and Fire bit, but i still audibly groaned at how forced that moment was.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 8:43:40 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 8:49:04 GMT -6
i will back up and say Tyrion finding his siblings in the rubble absolutely wrecked me.
the writers may have tried to destroy Tyrion's arc but Mr. Dinklage still put on a helluva performance so good on him.
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Post by concertgoer on May 20, 2019 8:52:17 GMT -6
Did I miss the explanation of why Brienne joined Bran’s Kingsguard since she was sworn to serve Sansa?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 9:02:18 GMT -6
nooooooope.
i'll give them the benefit of the doubt here and assume she asked Sansa to join the Kingsguard to serve in honor of Jaime -- but that doesnt make total sense since at that point, either Dany would've still been queen and Sansa would've absolutely not allowed that OR there was no king/queen and Brienne would've been even more compelled to protect Sansa until a new monarch was established
also Davos got robbed -- dude deserves better than Master of Ships for all the shit he's had to go through. hell he probably understands economics better than Bronn, the new Master of Coin (groan)
also why does the 3 Eyed Raven need a Master of Whispers? dude hears everything already
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Post by teekoh on May 20, 2019 9:07:54 GMT -6
Did I miss the explanation of ....? If you have a question that begins like the above, you can be pretty sure that you did not miss anything. |
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Post by Xamnam on May 20, 2019 9:15:59 GMT -6
finding his siblings in the rubble absolutely wrecked me. Man, it's sure a shame they didn't feel like moving, idk, 30 feet to the right. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 9:27:29 GMT -6
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Post by Kamera on May 20, 2019 9:52:24 GMT -6
I liked that meme with Bran captioned "Doesn't participate in the group project, still gets an A on the final."
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Post by Pale Hose on May 20, 2019 10:00:17 GMT -6
Lol who is finding this stuff. There's no way you catch that just casually watching the show. |
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Post by jimmyrecard on May 20, 2019 10:45:51 GMT -6
I'm surprised by the positivity in here. Imo this episode was absolute trash, and much like this entire season didn't make sense. This is such a garbage way to end what was an amazing show. Dexter level bad. Why is Jon at that wall? What is he protecting the realm from? The White Walkers are dead? What is he and his army of watchmen patrolling for at the end!?
Arya...just kinda leaves. Awesome, see ya later Arya, have fun.
Drogon...just kinda leaves. Had a real Poochie feeling about it. All that was missing was the caption 'Drogon died on the way to his home planet.'
None of the other Lords have any issues with the Starks just ruling everything? THIS ENTIRE SHOW IS ABOUT FAMILIES WHO WANT TO RULE...but the ending is just everyone saying 'sure...I guess we'll just let the Starks have it'. Not to mention that the Starks have a massively depleted army and would be so easy to defeat. It's like they all forgot about WHAT THEY WERE ALL FIGHTING FOR FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS!
Why is the hand of the Mad Queen, who brought her and her armies and dragons across the sea all of a sudden the Hand of the King? Not to mention that he's clearly terrible at his job.
Bronn, a sellsword who is easily bribed is in charge of money? He's literally the worst person for that position.
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Post by alady on May 20, 2019 10:52:03 GMT -6
I will say I was super stoked to see Tobias Menzies at the end though I had no idea who he was supposed to be or whether he'd been on the show before. Also I have no idea if that's a spoiler?
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Post by wanny on May 20, 2019 11:13:48 GMT -6
I'm surprised by the positivity in here. Imo this episode was absolute trash, and much like this entire season didn't make sense. This is such a garbage way to end what was an amazing show. Dexter level bad. Why is Jon at that wall? What is he protecting the realm from? The White Walkers are dead? What is he and his army of watchmen patrolling for at the end!?
Arya...just kinda leaves. Awesome, see ya later Arya, have fun.
Drogon...just kinda leaves. Had a real Poochie feeling about it. All that was missing was the caption 'Drogon died on the way to his home planet.'
None of the other Lords have any issues with the Starks just ruling everything? THIS ENTIRE SHOW IS ABOUT FAMILIES WHO WANT TO RULE...but the ending is just everyone saying 'sure...I guess we'll just let the Starks have it'. Not to mention that the Starks have a massively depleted army and would be so easy to defeat. It's like they all forgot about WHAT THEY WERE ALL FIGHTING FOR FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS!
Why is the hand of the Mad Queen, who brought her and her armies and dragons across the sea all of a sudden the Hand of the King? Not to mention that he's clearly terrible at his job.
Bronn, a sellsword who is easily bribed is in charge of money? He's literally the worst person for that position.
They aren't protecting anything. He is the king of the true north leading the free folk and leaving the kingdoms. |
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Post by thebosma on May 20, 2019 11:47:23 GMT -6
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Post by claypoolfan on May 20, 2019 11:52:32 GMT -6
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Post by krentist on May 21, 2019 19:38:36 GMT -6
That finale was decidedly "fine." You can sort of trace the broad strokes of what a great ending would look like if D&D weren't in such a hurry to fuck up the other behemoth franchise and get paid for it
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 16:06:02 GMT -6
In response to Jimmy's comments... There's no reason to think Bronn or anyone left in charge is going to be "good", except maybe the maester.
Also, the Starks were well-loved by most of the realm at the start. They then gradually became victimized throughout the series. Out of all the remaining factions, the Starks were probably the most (potentially) benevolent at the end. Not to mention, Brann is obviously not keen on actually ruling. That falls to Tyrion. Tyrion made a lot of bad decisions throughout various conflicts, but ultimately turned on his family who were widely hated/feared and at least intended on bringing about peace for everyone. He is the least likely to violently subjugate any peoples.
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