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Post by Tweet on Dec 11, 2018 9:55:54 GMT -6
If torpedo’ing a stock leads to me getting paid 275 million, hell, I’ll nuke mine
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 9:59:42 GMT -6
I mean, that's $75 million less than what he was initially rumored to get, but you do you.
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Post by Pale Hose on Dec 11, 2018 12:29:40 GMT -6
White Sox traded for Ivan Nova. They're sending Pittsburgh a "young pitcher" and some international bonus pool money.
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Post by Pale Hose on Dec 11, 2018 12:31:12 GMT -6
I guess Nova slots into the role James Shields filled last year. Veteran innings eater with mediocre performance.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 12:35:17 GMT -6
Better upside than Shields, obviously - could work out nicely.
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Post by teekoh on Dec 11, 2018 12:38:57 GMT -6
I like that move a good amount.
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Post by Pale Hose on Dec 11, 2018 12:43:12 GMT -6
It's fine, we needed someone to eat innings this year since Kopech will be out with TJ. Right now the rotation looks like Rodon, Lopez, Nova, Gioloto, and Covey I guess? So I'd like to see them add at least one more starter, if not two.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 13:05:54 GMT -6
I think Hahn mentioned going after a couple starters, so I don't think they're considering using Covey in the rotation. My guess is he's a long relief guy going forward, and he could probably thrive in that role.
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Post by iasm on Dec 11, 2018 13:46:49 GMT -6
McCutchen to the Phillies. Hmmmmm
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Post by Pale Hose on Dec 11, 2018 14:08:42 GMT -6
Blue Jays released Tulo, ouch.
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Post by Pale Hose on Dec 11, 2018 14:10:43 GMT -6
McCutchen to the Phillies. Hmmmmm 3/50, seems like a bit of an overpay for a player in decline. Phillies said they were going to be a little stupid though, so at least they were true to their word. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 14:29:08 GMT -6
McCutchen is actually how I envisioned the Sox going this offseason. He's still a pretty good player although far from his peak - almost a 3 win player last year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 14:41:40 GMT -6
Sox are rumored to be going after Grandal now.
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Post by Pale Hose on Dec 11, 2018 15:08:30 GMT -6
I saw that too - isn't Collins supposed to be close to ready?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 15:14:14 GMT -6
He'll start the season at AAA apparently. He might make sense transitioning to first base if this is Abreu's last season with the team.
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Post by dij22 on Dec 11, 2018 15:37:55 GMT -6
It's crazy that the Sox are even in these discussions.
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Post by dij22 on Dec 11, 2018 15:44:29 GMT -6
He'll start the season at AAA apparently. He might make sense transitioning to first base if this is Abreu's last season with the team. Looks like it: |
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Post by venom on Dec 11, 2018 16:07:43 GMT -6
coincidentally, i've been in vegas for a couple days and strolled over to mandalay just to see what was happening. nothing special. but i did walk by harold reynolds and edgar martinez chatting, and then ken rosenthal and joe maddon at the same spot like 5 minutes later.
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Post by Pale Hose on Dec 12, 2018 16:17:40 GMT -6
Charlie Morton to the Rays, 2 years 30M.
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Post by iasm on Dec 12, 2018 17:44:13 GMT -6
Let’s build up some hopes just so they can be crashed down:
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Post by Pale Hose on Dec 12, 2018 18:11:38 GMT -6
Lance Lynn to the Rangers, 3/30. Glad to see the frozen offseason of 2017-2018 was just an aberration.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 21:23:52 GMT -6
White Sox are rumored on a ton of players, and it's going to be so depressing when the highlight of the offseason is signing Adam Jones for some reason.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 21:24:34 GMT -6
Let’s build up some hopes just so they can be crashed down: Jim Bowden is so gd awful. I can't believe he's employed by The Athletic. |
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Post by Pale Hose on Dec 12, 2018 21:51:12 GMT -6
White Sox are rumored on a ton of players, and it's going to be so depressing when the highlight of the offseason is signing Adam Jones for some reason. It sounds like it's either going to be one of the franchise players, or stop gaps on 1-2 year deals. They are not going to realistically contend next year, no matter who they sign. |
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Post by Pale Hose on Dec 12, 2018 21:52:23 GMT -6
FTR I'm still refusing to get my hopes up for either Harper or Machado.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 22:01:11 GMT -6
This feels like that offseason when the Bulls were rumored to sign everyone and failed miserably.
And I disagree that they can't contend next year - the AL Central is a dumpster fire.
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Post by Pale Hose on Dec 12, 2018 22:15:25 GMT -6
I think the Indians are still a 90 win team. Unless they sign multiple guys to help them win now, I don't think a 28 win improvement is possible.
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Post by Pale Hose on Dec 12, 2018 22:15:55 GMT -6
Happ back to the Yankees on a 2 year deal around $35M.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 22:42:24 GMT -6
I think the Indians are still a 90 win team. Unless they sign multiple guys to help them win now, I don't think a 28 win improvement is possible. They're losing a ton of key contributors and basically feasted off a terrible AL Central to get to their win total last season. I don't think they're a guarantee to get back to 90 wins. If they sign Grandal (or a decent catcher), a good outfielder, a coupe of relievers and another starter I think they could easily surprise in that division. |
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Post by monasterymonochrome on Dec 12, 2018 23:25:49 GMT -6
I think the Indians are still a 90 win team. Unless they sign multiple guys to help them win now, I don't think a 28 win improvement is possible. They're losing a ton of key contributors and basically feasted off a terrible AL Central to get to their win total last season. I don't think they're a guarantee to get back to 90 wins. If they sign Grandal (or a decent catcher), a good outfielder, a coupe of relievers and another starter I think they could easily surprise in that division. Agreed with this take. I've been a Cleveland fan my whole life, and these last 3-4 years have been thrilling, but....something about this offseason feels different. There seems to be an amount of complacency among the organization / fans in regards to the ease of the Central. I wouldn't be surprised if we stumble out of the gate and allow a resurgent team like the Sox an opportunity. All bets are off after 2019, of course - I have no idea what Cleveland's roster'll look like by then. But a big offseason from the Sox could put them in the right place at the right time this season. (And for the record, I hope it's y'all, been a casual Sox fan since getting to the...uhh...Cell is so easy from Hyde Park) |
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